i bought this claud butler today.....what do you think?

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Looks good - It takes 27x1/4 wheels - If u haven't got any then I have a pair for sale!! But maybe u are going to ride it brakeless - or maybe the wheels are in good nick.... Any way, just thought I'd let u know cause they are brand spanking new - never been ridden!

jonaent Looks good - It takes 27x1/4 wheels - If u haven't got any then I have a pair for sale!! But maybe u are going to ride it brakeless - or maybe the wheels are in good nick.... Any way, just thought I'd let u know cause they are brand spanking new - never been ridden!

well i have to pick it up from canterbury...which is going to be fun as i live in london.so im not sure of the state of the wheels,not bad for 26 squid tho!

what are the wheels??? how would it be effected if i ride it breakless??

If you ride brakeless you can put smaller wheels on and not worry about a brake fitting.

I had soooooo much trouble with an old Dawes tourer - it took 27x1/4 wheels and they were damaged and bent when I got the bike (£19). I put normal 700c wheels on it and then normal shinamo brakes wouldn't fit! (too shallow). Then I bought Shimano RX100 caliper with 57mm drop and even that was too small and didn't reach the rim! The shitty Weinmanns that it came with are all that fit.

If you are going to ride it brakeless then don't worrk about it...

thanks.....as you can probably tell im new to the fix wheel way,so not to clued up

i do plan to ride it brakeless....

aidan im new to the fix wheel way,so not to clued up

aidan i do plan to ride it brakeless....

does not compute.

you might want a front brake whilst you learn to skip and skid?

yer sounds like a good idea,especialy due to the incompetance of drivers in london,im going to wait untill i get the bike before i start buying stuff

If you have an old school fork and you want to run a front brake you’ll need something with a bit of reach..

Check these out.

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You can probably get them from another supplier, but at a score for two it ain’t bad, they are not that pretty but they do work. Plus you’ll have a spare that you can swap on Brick lane for some used beermats or whatever./

If you measure from the centre of the break mount hole to the centre of your rim, this will tell you how deep a drop you need, SHELDON has the answers, you know it..

Unless you are totally dope_thebomb_whatever I’d fit a front break spoils the look but I go faster knowing I’ve got the ability to stop do8uble fast when some dickwad get’s out of their taxi, pushes their pram across Oxford st. Just an opinion, have ridden brakless kind of made me a bit more twitchy than I already am...

thanks..il check it out,what do you think of the frame? not bad for the price ahy

£26.50 = whole bike

or 17 lattes, 6 single fairs around london, 8 pints of beer, or a 13 bottles of while lightning.

i think either way, a bike is a lot more fun than any of the above (by themselves).

well 13 bottle of white lightning sound good.....

until you finish the first three bottles...

If the wheels are in ok nick you could just leave the front alone, use the existing brake and rebuild the rear with a track hub (it's not all that hard, again sheldonbrown.com has the answers).

jonaent: was it you that I nearly gave my old 27" wheels to?

"jonaent: was it you that I nearly gave my old 27" wheels to?"

@Rattlebag

YES!!! I'll take them if you still have them - Tenner if I remember!! I'm desperate to get that Dawes on the road. The ones I have just don't fit at rear hub (they had a screw on casette thing which I tried to convert.......)

so you would recomend buying the hub and rim seperate and just building it myself instead of buy a ready buit wheel?

aidan so you would recomend buying the hub and rim seperate and just building it myself instead of buy a ready buit wheel?

It all depends how wide the rear drops are... It depends on its age - the usual rule is Road 130mm track 120mm, but there was a period in 70s when the just guessed in UK and France so sometimes they are 125mm, sometimes 135mm.

If yours is 130mm (which I'd say it will be), you will have to get a specific hub by Goldtec (there is thread in here somewhere about a 130mm hub...) But you could also get a 120mm hub nd flex the frame in.... depends how u feel about thframe and exactly how much you will be bending it (you might want to try cold-setting th erear stays down to 120mm, but don't do this more than once!)

thanks,this is the kind of stuff im going to have to learn......apriciated

wow sheldonbrown.com is great,i had no idea what cold-setting was......now i do!!

Should make a nice convertion. Nicer frame then my gas pipe job which still rides well.

If you end up replacing the front wheel with a 700cc wheel I would recomend a drope plate (see sheldon again) if the current brakes do not have enough drop. The problem with brakes with very long drops is that they have a reduced mechanical advantage, if the current brakes have enough drop just use them as it saves some pennies but I would not go and buy some super long drop brakes.

cheers brick,i saw the artical on drop plates on sheldon's site,im more sure then ever that i'm going to convert to fixwheel,i was riding to uni today got to a junction,when the lights went green pushed off and the chain got caught nearly throwing mr over the bars at the same time i hit my knee of my forks or headset and now it aint working!! fucking gears!!