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I wonder if it varies from branch to branch, because while my experience of them isn't extensive from what I've experienced/heard the more typical experience is they pick a price out of the air, then if it's high you need to negotiate it down. But if you use a builder who's used to dealing with them they'll know what they should be paying.
the days of trademans saving fortunes over the customer price is gone from experience
It's definitely gone with Howdens as it's trade only :P
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Didn't quite work like that and my dad's got an account. They basically said what do you want I said I have this, they designed it and at the end said the price was X or Y if I built it myself.
There really wasn't much of a debate, the days of trademans saving fortunes over the customer price is gone from experience.
Fitting it though its fine apart from the cockups Howdens have made and just like most other kitchens I work in that are 10's of thousands.