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• #27
Saddle defo can play a part here - anything like a charge spoon that has seams in the fabric = more wear for me.
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• #28
leather flite for me so not sure this is the problem
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• #29
How casual do they need to look? For winter, most of my commuter/gravel miles are done in rapha lighweight trail or explore pants (the lightweight trail are much better).
OrNot are the king of active trousers that look most like trousers but pricey and hard to get in the UK/difficult to return if the size if wrong.
Yet to destroy any of these. swrve jeans are great too, a goto for off the bike.
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• #30
Swrve are good. What size are you, there's a few pieces on Vinted?
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• #31
Usually around 30x30 to 32x32! Thanks I’ll take a look on there
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• #32
I wear a pair of Spoke Bulletproof's which are light, have a bit of stretch and fit perfectly
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• #33
Bit late to the thread but I have some experience with this, or rather my late father did. He was in the Grenadier Guards for a while, mainly in fruit and veg awareness, but he did have access to cavalry twill and jodhpurs, which will become relevant in a while. He was a keen racing cyclist at the time, this would be 1963, so between the end of the "Chatterley" ban and the Beatles' first LP. In those days professional racing bikes had mostly lightweight beechwood saddles whereas mass market bicycles made do with heavier Oak or even house brick. Professionals wore what were known as 'shorts' which had inside them what was called a 'pad' or 'chamois', (very different from the aero-onesies that are popular at the Tour nowadays) and non-racing cyclists, or commuters as they later became known, wore trousers. Anyway, the point is both celebrated racers and derided plumbers were turning up to work with their arses hanging out because of the excessive friction and the inevitable wear and tear at the rear end.
My Father spotted an opportunity here to bring together his love of bike riding and his intimate knowledge of hardy fabrics and created the Grenadier Pants, which were oversized and double butted and designed to be slipped over either 'shorts' or 'trousers' and, being made of military grade material, provided a reliable and convenient solution.
Cyclists being very much traditionalists and resistant to change it took a little while for my Father's pants to be accepted but when the late, great Eddy Merckx wore a pair to victory at the Ghent Six in 1965 things did take off. My Father was able to leave his job with the Guards -which he no longer enjoyed anyway having been reassigned to the soft furnishings brigade - and produce the protective trousers full time. To this day they are the only pants to have won Milan- San Remo and the Milk Race in the same season.
Sadly, and for reasons I have never really understood, the Moon landing in 1969 put paid to his business and the Grenadier Pants were no more. I wouldn't say he died a broken man because he is still alive but he did lose his sparkle. -
• #34
Just to add to Will's experience.
- Levi's commuter jeans
- Rapha shorts
- Zara chino jean thingys with a decent amount of lycra.
The common denominator here is fabric with lycra and stretch to it. Anything majority cotton is going to get fucked. It is the worst possible of all. Materials for a cyclist's gooch.
- Levi's commuter jeans
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• #35
"he did lose his sparkle"
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• #36
"my late father - is still alive"
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• #37
Perhaps his time keeping is off?
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• #38
Excellent use of double butted
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• #39
As others have mentioned, the saddle plays a big role here in terms of wear rate: the smoother the better.
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• #40
Grab some Swrve stuff while you still can, mine never went in the gooch, always pockets first before (eventually) the material finally gave out. But I wear mine every day, generally rotate two pairs and they'll last me 2-4 years.
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• #41
I've had good luck with the cotton twill stuff from Universal Works. There's a little fading but no tearing & have generally stood up well to 2/3 years of wear with a few pairs on rotation.
A bit pricey at full whack but they often come up on eBay with a decent saving.
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• #42
Another vote for Swrve. I've been pretty much wearing almost exclusively Swrve jeans for over 15 years now.
Only problem I have with them is the dye fades over time a fair bit compared to other brands. Would love it if they made some ever-black jeans as that's the only thing I buy other jeans for.
Also "reinforced gusset" is a fun thing to say.
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• #43
Sweve are sadly winding down, so if you find clothes you like in your size buy lots.
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• #44
Dickies lead in flex - just bought some for work site visits - not too dorky or wide below the knee - still workwear line so should hold up. So far am impressed.
Swrve look promising. Suit my style and look like they’re reinforced in all the right places. Maybe I’ll give these a go.