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Re pizza rack and mini ortlieb pannier. You can make it work - but by loosening and spinning the bottom clip so it fits on the lower rail (as mentioned up thread) . It is a bit fiddly tbh - especially on the brake rotor side.
I lost one of the hooks mid tour this summer and ended up using the ortlieb carry strap as a horizontal strap around the rack and hooked through the lower clip - which if anything worked better.
Running two minis and a basket up-front is great. I might swap to minis on the rear too.