• I just feel like there are so many more appealing cars from so many other manufacturers that fill those segments...

    Alfa Romeo / Lexus / Audi / Mercedes / BMW / Volvo all more interesting and desirable.

    Obviously subjective but then so is the new branding :)

  • Alfa Romeo / Lexus / Audi / Mercedes / BMW / Volvo all more interesting and desirable.

    Maybe more desirable, but other than Alfa come on, none of them are more interesting. They all pretty dull.

    Ok maybe BMW too I guess.

  • Tell me that’s real

  • Personal taste innit...

    To be honest I really don't like BMW all that much but I do think Lexus make some fantastic cars in that segment, likewise the Volvo V90 is fantastic... Audi RS and Merc AMG are still the best fast saloon and estate cars by a long shot.

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