• Tonight, on Trawlermen

  • Poor bastard!

  • Nedry jacket


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  • Walk dog.
    Dry dog with towel.

  • Walk dog.
    Wash dog.
    Dog still smells of shit.
    Put house coat on dog and hope for the best.

  • Long dogs are so skinny. The coat is mostly to give a layer of insulation.

  • Already recovered enough to try and hobble out the door on a walk this morning, when my wife went out.

  • Had to give my pup the shave because her hair was getting too long and impossible to stop from getting matted. Just in time for the frost and snow.


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  • Lols! Looks as dumb as mine in a coat. Long hair dogs are a huge pita

  • My dog refuses to wear clothes, he will just stand still and plant his feet.
    He also hates rain.
    Hasn't yet fathomed wearing the (rather snazzy reflective camo) coat will keep him dry and warm.

  • Ha! My dog does the same, you put his fleece on and he stands there like a stroppy toddler refusing to move for a minute or two. Then the allure of going to the park to chase squirrels kicks in and he decides he will come out after all.

  • Crumpet also hates her jacket. We only make her endure it when it's a few degrees below zero. She's definitely built for the cold though, she really struggles in warm weather. Probably a good thing she's not living in Greece anymore.

  • Follow-up/rant here - it has happened three times in the past few days, yesterday Bazza was on lead when we entered the park (which, tbf, has been the case most times I've seen him recently, so thought they'd reached the only reasonable conclusion - being 'I should control my rabid teddybear of a dog') - I let Owen off to play with some friends he met and before I know it in comes Barry steaming after Owen. His owner doesn't recognise me and starts saying "that's Owen isn't it, don't worry, just leave them, I'll get mine when I can but it would be good to see what happens" - to which I tell him in fairly colourful terms to get control of his dog now and we will not be 'seeing what happens'. He performs a frankly impressive (and hilarious) rugby tackle of the tiny cunty stuffed-toy and off he drags him, still frothing and barking at Owen, who comes and hides between my legs (a truly ridiculous/pathetic sight if you can picture Owen). Next day, our walks overlap again and Barry is on lead again. Fine. Owen goes offlead to play with a mate and does, unfortunately, run in the general direction of Barry (who is stood with a load of other little dogs, Owen can't resist a dog-gathering). Owen never gets more than 10m from them, before veering off to play with some other dogs. I'm walking after, mildly embarrassed at his lack of recall, but knowing I'll soon have him on. Then, I hear a sudden shout and Barry seems to have burst free from his owner and is hooning straight towards Owen again. His owner, again, starts shouting 'don't put yours on, it will be easier if they're both off' which is just bollocks, and ignores the fact that Owen is almost always submissive and have previously laid down in the face of a Barry onslaught, with me only just reaching in time to grab Barry before he could do whatever his twisted mind was dreaming of. I, again, told him to fuck off and get his dog under control. At this point I said we needed to have a chat about this, and he shouted his address at me as he left. I popped round later, but no-one was in so I put a card through with my number on, asking him to call. He sent a message, just saying he received the card but was busy till Sunday. I then sent a message back saying thank you and would be happy to speak then. BUT, it then happened again this morning, Barry comes steaming over but I had Owen on lead so just grabbed him, dangling him away from Owen who was getting visibly stressed, understandably. Owner didn't say anything and looked exasperated. I got home absolutely fuming but managed to write a reasonably composed message explaining why I was anxious about this (Owen's a puppy, we have a 3 month old so have put loads of training into keeping him calm and not aggressive, these incidents have often caused a pronounced stress response lasting days and our last trainer - big lad, ex international rugby player - has a massive scar on his chest from his welsh terrier, so we know they can do damage) and asking what he thought we could do. He sent a message back saying there was a lot to take in and he'd have a think. I said if we could agree that Barry would be on-lead when they saw Owen in the park and he wouldn't start with all the 'let them sort it out', 'leave Owen off lead' nonsense that would be a really good start. He responded that keeping Barry on lead isn't an option and would be unfair on him. Absolutely no recognition/acknowledgment that as he has the monomaniacally aggressive dog, there is a responsibility on him to handle that. I know you're only reading my side here, but on my newborn's life, Owen has never aggressed or in any way instigated this shit with cuntyballs.

    I am so close to actually losing my shit with this guy.

    tldr/ Barry's a cunt and so's his owner.

    edit - apologies for reply to Goats, I didn't mean to do that.

  • That's unacceptable I would say. You're correct, the responsibility is on the owner to control Owen (edit: Barry). It sounds like a matter of time before one or both of your dogs gets injured, which isn't what anyone wants.
    It must be hard for the owners to accept that their dog is the problem but they need to. If it's only 1 specific dog (yours) that they have issues with then it's not exactly going to be a drastic change or reduction in quality of life to keep him on the lead if they spot you.

    We've had a similar case with Crumpet, but with Crumpet being the nobhead. She's really taken to a dog in the park and wants to run around with it like she does with her best friends. That involves lots of noise and rough play and this other dog really doesn't like it and has snapped at Crumpet before. I now just put Crumpet on the lead and move to a different bit of the park so that she's not tempted to misbehave around that dog. I would say that it has reduced the quality of a walk where we bump into that dog by about 3%.

  • Cheers. (Owen is my dog, btw, Barry is the cunt).

    For clarity, Barry is not just being a nobhead and over enthusiastic (Owen has had his moments in that regard with other dogs for sure), Barry is genuinely monomaniacally obsessed with and aggressive towards Owen. Whenever he catches sight of him he is instantly growling, barking, frothing and dragging at the lead to get at him. It's insane. I've never seen a dog have as consistent or intense a reaction as this. I totally get that it must be stressful for his owners as well, but they are rapidly losing any goodwill I might have had towards them. The tricky thing is, the park we seem to always overlap in is the most convenient park for me and where Owen has lots of mates. Otherwise I'd just go elsewhere.

  • Sorry, got the dogs mixed up!

    Also, I wasn't suggesting Barry is just playing and not being aggressive (although I can see how I wasn't very clear), I was just giving an example of how easy and low impact it is to avoid a shit situation when your dog is the one not behaving itself.
    It doesn't sound like the owners are helping themselves at all in this situation. It'd be 10x less stressful for them to just put the little fucker on a lead for a few minutes than have to deal with all of this!

  • So much this. I offered exactly that as the easiest solution, but he came back with "that won't be possible, it would be unfair on Barry" - WTF. He's had him on lead every time I've seen him recently. I think he's just one of those barely-socialised humans who simmers with rage at any perceived slight or confrontation. I've been really clear that there's no blame here etc, we just need to find some reasonable accommodations. Still, at least I have the image of his graceless rugby tackle of a frothing teddy bear to keep me warm.

  • Mine is the same.

  • Our lurcher has been totally non-reactive to every dog so far, and stands confused when barked at.

    Unfortunately a neighbour has a spaniel that snapped at him when we tried a careful introduction a month ago. Since then, two meets and they were okay. Today, his spaniel was laying flat and in the narrow bit of the path. I asked are we going to greet nicely.

    Got closer and all of a sudden they’re both going at it. I get my dog back and calm him down, but the spaniel owner is…. less than competent.

    I had to endure three in a row of these reactions by my dog until they were far enough along the narrow path. The spaniel owner had no sense that there was nowhere for me to go, except backward, and he was blocking our progress by just being thick as short plank.

    I feel your pain. Some owners are not very aware. At least this is on-lead.

  • Oh, second, we have started sighthound meetups but the others can go off-lead for a small play. Our one can’t because he decided to catch, not chase, one of the others a week ago. So now he gets agitated and barks because he wants to join the race.

    We pull him out of sight of the playtime until they’re back on-lead and then they’re all mates again walking their own walks together.

  • The obvious solution is to get a powerful second dog. Let it bond with your dog and then take them to the park together and follow up on the owner's suggestion to 'let them sort it out' themselves.
    Suspect there'll be a load of cane corsos up for rescue soon ...
    I realise this probably isn't much help. It is definitely Barry's owner's responsiblity. It's amazing what some small dog owners will allow their dogs to do though. As the owner of a dog who'll not afraid to be quite 'assertive' when she thinks other dogs have bad manners, I still treat it as my responsiblity/failing the few times she's properly kicked off with other dogs, even when the other dog is generally the one that's instigated it.

  • Here's Ada being suspicious that I'm going to make her go out in the cold again.
    (she's fine once a street away from home, but the initial transition to outdoors is something she is wildly unenthusiastic about).


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  • Owen's best mates are a st bernard, a swiss sheperd and a rotty cross. They make quite the gang of oversized teenage idiots. Even when they've all been roughhousing, Barry has had no qualms about just charging into the midst to try and get at Owen. I reckon he'd take the lot of them if it came to it... 🐻

  • Gorgeous!

  • Smaller terriers are impressively fearless.
    Have his dog friends made any attempt to step in when this has happened? Am quite surprised if they haven't, though dog group dynamics still confuse me. Like play with 3 dogs often seems to turn bad in my experience, whereas if there's 4 or a larger group, it seems to generally be fine.

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