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Thanks, I'll look at those.
It's for podcasting and recording in the field. Using dynamic mics for the podcasts, so attracted to the low noise floor of the F4 vs the H-series. I've already got an F1 with the H-series XLR capsule and while it's got plenty of gain it's not that clean.
Was very interested in the Livetrak L8 portable mixer, but after renting one it doesn't have enough gain (54 dB max) and was just as noisy if not more than the F1. The F4 has enough submixes that it can work as the brains for USB multitrack recording with different monitoring options.
The MixPre 3 is nice but it has fewer ports than the F4 and no combi jacks, so just feels a bit less flexible.
What do you want the recorder for? Do you need timecode? 32 bit? multiple channels?
I'd suggest asking on the FieldRecording Slack site and on JWSound for recommendations - both have used gear sections - though bblist is pretty good too.
I'd get a Sound Devices if you want something well designed and reliable.