• Same as the others, I really like the insight. One thing I'm interested in but have zero knowledge about is the materials. I had the insulated jacket which was really lightweight but I think with sleeves generally too warm for general riding. My guess is that you took similar material and turned it into the insulated gilet? Insulated gilet is now my essential winter riding layer.

    But both those seem to be made of different stuff from the Zoa jacket. Zoa is effectively my off the bike winter jacket / tooling around at 4mph. I'm very interested (probably on a tactile level because I'm not a materials guy) to feel the difference between the insulated range and old and new zoa to see how the combination of warm breathable lightweight works in the same shape and weight but reconstructed

    we're all allowed to nerd out once and while right?

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