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  • Now loads of the bigger brands have good options.

    Any suggestions? I'm researching at the moment for a Christmas present for my nearly 4 year old - Hoy, Frog, Isla and Belter is my list so far but none are big brands

  • Raleigh Performance and Dawes Academy. There is a Vitus as well I think and there must be a reassuringly expensive Cannondale.

    Have a look in this thread too: https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/334778/?offset=200#comment17575023

    The lesson we went to had Frogs and while marginally heavier than Cnoc were all nicely designed and would be happy with them. I've also seen the Dawes Academy irl and thought it looked good.

    We went for the Cnoc 16 for my eldest because one came up in silver in excellent condition near us at a good price. This time round we went for the cnoc 14* in large part because from our research first time round we were a bit familiar and as it was a known quantity/we're happy with the 16 we got.

    What else... From reading plus the guy I bought the cnoc 14 from you can skip sizes. So his kid is going straight from this to a 20, whereas his older kid started on a 16 rather than a 14. The sizing guide is pretty helpful.

    *Newer versions have Large and Small denoted by an "L" or "S" after the 14 on the DS chainstays. I think old ones were only had the one large size.


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  • Thanks, super helpful

    Trek, giant etc all seem to be in the region of 9kg for a 14 inch wheeler compared to 6kg ish for Isla / frog / squish. Obvs weight isn't everything but I'm assuming it's a reasonable proxy for overall quality. So from limited research it does seem the small specialist brands are still offering something the big guys aren't.

    Will look at Dawes and Raleigh too though

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