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  • No offence, but are you sure you understand what soul's point is?

    Maybe re-read the their two posts.

  • I mean, that's why I asked what the point was, so no. I don't think I do understand what soul's point is.

  • My point can be boiled down to this:

    I don't believe your original statement (Not being obviously horrendous arseholes who won't change much worked pretty well for 'Labour' here, so it’s perfectly possible over there too.) can be applied to a more entrenched two party ballot.

    I provided lots of points as to why but this is as short as I can make my point.

  • No worries. It was a genuine question.

    In the US you have 4 choices

    1. Don't vote
    2. Vote Democrat
    3. Vote Republican
    4. Vote 3rd party/ independent

    In the UK in the last election you had

    1. Conservative
    2. Labour
    3. Lib dem
    4. Green
    5. Plaid
    6. Reform
    7. SNP
    8. Other/Independent
    9. Don't vote

    In the US not voting and Indys can help Republicans or Democrats but those are tiny numbers and still result in one of two choices.

    In the UK while TPTP massively favours the two biggest parties, votes can get pulled from a much wider range of parties and you have more more factors at play.

    That said I think that Soul is underestimating the number of swing voters (c. 18% according to an NYT study).

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