Cargo Bikes

That's life – I'd say 99% of the risk for kids is being on a UK road on any bike. It's not like the Load has a rollcage and airbags.

with omnium my main question/issue is who likes to sit with their feet flat on ground?!

and if Load tips on the side, quite a lot is well protected by the frame around the seating area

100 percent!

That is exactly the setup I would go for, if I didn’t already have the bullitt

The side bars is why I went for my iumentum over a bullit.

It may be an illusion..but it feels safer for the little one.

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It's all a balance. I have experience of an Omnium, Riese & Muller Load and a Butchers and Bicycles (big box bike), each for a few thousand km.

The Butchers was the most practical (door, seatbelts, high seats) but definitely the least fun to ride. The Load I really like, it's like a Rolls Royce, the kids find it comfortable too. Easiest to ride. Good for countryside potholes.

But the Omnium is the fastest, most fun, and preferred by the kids, even though it looks the most uncomfortable. It's also a bike for people who like bikes – it's my daily bike, rides like a normal bike, goes everywhere, fits on the top of the car, comes on holiday with us and is utilitarian with not much to break. The Mini Max is the perfect bike (not just cargo) to me.

This summer we took it driving around France and Spain with us, it was great for exploring the mountains off-road for the day with the kids or down to the shops for supplies.

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It's all a balance.

yeah absolutely!

next you (and me both) should go longtail

Totally – I've considered selling the Load for something like a Tern Orox or Big Dummy, but then I'd miss the full suspension and may as well use the Omnium.

We have the Load because we use the Load in all weathers, and the Bosch is so reliable. Kids rarely use the Omnium in winter – the wind chill is too much for them. I guess a GSD with the kid cover would work... I just don't like what it looks like.

same, my issue is when she becomes tall enough that her head hits the bars

Hi all, sorry to bother but I am in search of your cargo expertise!

Probably, I am meeting with someone who is willing to sell their LvsH cargo bike. It's an e-bullit.
As a completely naive cargo bike user with no previous experience on cargo, what should I look for / check from it?
I am more worried about the e-bike components rather than the bike frame/groupset etc..

Thank you in advance for any tips.

a GSD with the kid cover

I had this, was good but yeah weird to look at and not very aero

@cake pls weigh in here

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@cake pls weigh in here

Has he taken up boxing now?

My ‘kids’ love the minimax too!

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As someone who has crashed a Load with two kids in it, I can confirm that I was grateful for the protective design of the bike. It was a heavy landing on the left side of the bike from a speed of around 25 kmh. They were totally unharmed.

Thanks, that’s helpful info. Did you have to switch out the stock easy-up stem lifter thing to fit the MacRide?

Nope - but I did have to switch out the 50 mm spacer below to fit the spacer for the MacRide

Nice - thank you. Sounds painless.

Hot take

You might need to consult the manual on how to adjust the headset preload with the easy-up - it can be a little bit fiddly.

OK, I'll bite. That pic is ancient (as you know full well),now there's the option to fit a regular child seat up front if wanted. Saying so having the legs stretched facing forward is a pretty popular option, it's like a chaise longue.

Passive safety is one thing, but it's easier to get out of trouble in traffic to start with on a 20kg maneuvrable bike VS a 2.5m long anvil. And it's still way safer than a seat at the back of a regular bike regardless.

This was what sold me on UA also, we had an incident where we tipped over on the longtail, even with the clubhouse I was not happy with how that went.

Good points! was not baiting you :(

the option to fit a regular child

This only lasts till they are 3 or 4 year old right?

a 2.5m long anvil

with 85nm torque though!

I've ended up with the bullit on its side going round a corner because of poor weight distro and large weight at the front.

It's all a lie we're telling ourselves.
Get a car.

Junior is 5 and still fits on a Yepp , and as I removed the seat's feet to fit it forward, leg length isn't an issue.
The backrest fits even an adult facing forward, ideally paired with the extender bar and its cover.
Canopies are handy for sure but as a car-free family we've managed daily riding in all sorts of weather (it's not like Denmark is warm or dry) without one so far. This last sentence was sponsored by Reima of Finland.