Regents Park

Thanks @Howard
Looking at his itinerary I guess it will be closed until Friday.

worse

Road closures for President Trump’s visit:

• The Outer Circle is closed between Hanover Gate and North Gate
  
• Footpaths along the Outer Circle, Charlbert Bridge, Charlbert Gate, The Boathouse toilets and Hanover Gate playground closed from 5pm Wednesday 11 July-15 July
  
• Access to pedestrian routes, toilets and playgrounds will be restored as quickly as possible after that
  
• The Outer Circle will be reopened by Saturday 21 July
  
• Macclesfield Bridge will remain open throughout
  
  

Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

So inner circle is open?

So inner circle is open?

It is. Did many laps of it this lunchtime and am still dizzy. Also, the road surface sucks there.

Are the therapy sessions for affected on the NHS for this crisis?

Thoughts and prayers as always.

Bastard. Not a fan of the Inner Circle, way too hairy for my liking

Cheers @dubtap

Did some laps of RP this morning (Sunday) - I quite often do laps in the evening, post 7:30/8pm after kiddo has gone to bed; but this was the first time I’ve been at peak cycling hours for ages and it was a reminder why I avoid it.

This morning

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that would make a nice diorama

Another one today

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bank holidays camden vibe. The area was mad yesterday night

Hat trick! 3 in a fortnight

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That pic doesn’t capture the full story - you need to zoom and see the smashed central reservation and the skid mark down the road

Always fun to see fancy bikes hammering it around with a flat pedal, triban limpet hanging off the back.

Oh yeah there is one guy always out who has clearly got himself loads of speed but no concept of duty of care when riding in a group. Doing forearms on the bars on a hybrid in company = yikes

Not sure which Regent's Park thread to best post this in, so this one will have to do. This has been prompted by the death of Hilda Griffiths in Regent's Park, and I've posted it in the relevant thread:

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/3960­74/

For discussion purposes, I'm also posting it in park-related threads.

The call for speed limits for cyclists is nothing new and comes again and again, whether there have been crashes or not. It's long been considered not to be an effective measure/deterrent at all and that it would do more harm than good. It's also a distraction from the much greater number of deaths and injuries caused by drivers, who cause them despite the existence of speed limits. Reducing road danger at source is to change cyclists' behaviour, but in the sense of improving their understanding of risk. This requires constant education, of the sort that should also be available to drivers, but of course that costs more than imposing comparatively ineffective speed limits.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/r­oyal-parks-london-speed-limit-cyclists-a­ccidents-b1188932.html

I've also put it into a Richmond Park-related thread here:

https://www.lfgss.com/comments/17557270/

How would a speed limit for cyclists be enforced? Speed limits for cars with registration plates are hard enough to enforce.

Advocates (who generally just resume an old debate that's been had innumerable times) will then suggest that pedal cycles should require licenses and registration plates. Clever, eh?

More relevantly, in the Royal Parks you would then get dedicated teams of enforcement officers.

I was in Regents Park yesterday, for the first time in ages, and the general standard of riding was terrible.

Admittedly, I have a bee in my bonnet over it, but the number of cunts undertaking / passing on the left is incredibly high, in fact it doesn't happen anywhere else if I'm recalling properly.

Feels like normal riding in London.

London riding standards are poor. I think a lot of commuter cyclists would be served well by having driving experience otherwise instances like the one which wiped out my mate in De Beauvoir become increasingly commonplace.

But I'm very rarely passed on the left. The odd shoaling nodder parks their front wheel there at lights, but I just put my leg across to the gutter to block them setting off until I have. If I'm only a road grate's width from the kerb, I don't want anyone in that space!

Riding standards are generally poor in communities in which there is little inherited understanding of cycling embedded in the culture, e.g. where parents are unable to teach their children good riding behaviour from a young age. That is to say, such standards are not just poor in London, but throughout the UK and the rest of the world.

Hence cycle training—deliberately set up to be positive and empowering rather than, like the driving test, setting people up to fail (until they eventually pass). (NB driving tests in other countries are structured differently.) Where people are able to understand basic principles such as those taught by cycle training, but which would ideally be taught by parents, without any need for cycle training, there poor riding practice shouldn't occur, or at least only rarely.

Unfortunately, we've seen a setback in London in these respects in the last decade or so, notwithstanding the good work of cycle trainers. Most people don't care about cycling (or driving/taking the train/whatever), they only want to get from A to B and will do anything towards that end, including bad riding, and switching modes whenever it suits them, which makes it even harder to establish cycling as the default non-walking mode of transport.

I suppose in Regent's Park the main thing people want to accomplish is to go round in circles, but their objective is likewise limited and leads to bad riding.

Not criticising you personally, as it's used all over the shop on here, but I've always disliked the expression 'nodder'. So what if you're quicker than someone who's slower and hasn't learned much about cycling yet? They won't become more interested in cycling if met with that kind of attitude.

Not criticising you personally, as it's used all over the shop on here, but I've always disliked the expression 'nodder'. So what if you're quicker than someone who's slower and hasn't learned much about cycling yet? They won't become more interested in cycling if met with that kind of attitude.

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