Epic WTF

He was prepped for surgery and literally wheeled into the theatre though?

But no cutting.

I think I see your point that the medical procedure itself didn’t start, so it’s not like cases where an anaesthetic wears off and the patient wakes up mid-operation. The horror factor in that case is that the anaesthetic could wear off. In this case, it’s multiple transplant professionals colluding or being so extremely negligent that they were, effectively, going to kill a clearly non-braindead and fully cognizant man for his organs, while lying to his family about his state. They got so far as to be gathered round prepared to cut him open, and the guy was aware of it.

Knowing the extreme bias against drug users in the States, I personally suspect their opinion of him as a person played into their actions. They sedated the guy when he started thrashing about at the mention of organ harvesting, and ignored that he was staring intently at his family members. To top it off, a private company making a profit was the driving force for it.

Like I said, nightmare fuel. I hope there’s serious reforms and the people responsible see prison time. They’ve not only nearly killed a man, and traumatised him and his family for life; they’ve fucked over an entire branch of the medical industry (transplants) that struggles to this day with potential donors’ concerns that they’ll be cut apart for their organs without merit. I guarantee thousands of people around the world will unregister as organ donors following this.

he started thrashing about at the mention of organ harvesting, and ignored that he was staring intently at his family members.

Where are you getting this from? Neither of those things are in the story.

His sister wants to publicise the story, she's his legal guardian, no doubt she wants a multi million dollar payout.

and the people responsible see prison time

Prison time for what though? I guess you could argue about the boss of the company suggesting they find someone else to do the surgery is pretty horrendous but he's eventually declared as alive so somewhat moot

I guarantee thousands of people around the world will unregister as organ donors following this

Really?

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2024/10/16/nx-s1-5113976/organ-transplantion-mistake-brain-dead-surgery-still-alive

Fill yer boots.

I guarantee thousands of people around the world will unregister as organ donors following this

Really?

Having advised families on the legal aspects of organ donation when a real-time decision has to be made, yes, I would bet money on it. A lot of people are tenuous donors, and a lot of family members can’t cope with the possibility of ending the life of a family member who might miraculously recover. The story will probably reach a few tens of millions of people, so a few thousand is a low estimate.

and the people responsible see prison time

Prison time for what though? I guess you could argue about the boss of the company suggesting they find someone else to do the surgery is pretty horrendous but he's eventually declared as alive so somewhat moot

My response would be at least attempted homicide, but given your response I don’t think it’ll be understood. I don’t feel like a debate right now, but I might elaborate later on why ignoring signs of life in order to conduct a procedure where you stand to make money deserves prison.

I was going to rob someone. I put a gun to their head and told them I was going to kill them and take their wallet.
But then I changed my mind so it’s ok.

A friend is a surgeon who moved to the USA from Canada. Makes huge money but has truly disturbing stories. They have really great healthcare if you have money. Otherwise you are absolutely doomed.
ER’s are always short staffed.
Doctors have to prioritize patients.
Some consider addicts or gangbangers a waste of time.

but given your response I don’t think it’ll be understood

Ouch.

attempted homicide

Yeah fair enough. It mentions it's being investigated so perhaps they'll be charges brought

It's a complicated story and I don't think it's been reported clearly yet. Which is often the case with medical stuff. More emphasis should have been given to the heart catheterization. It seems that's probably when the patient first woke up. Presumably he would have had it without anaesthetic. Very painful. But perhaps it was helpful that the pain woke him up?

It's a pity there are no quotes from the patient. Is he too damaged by his overdose to talk about what happened? Was he aware that he was being prepped for removal of his heart? Probably not. He would certainly have been distressed, but probably too dopey and confused to work out what was happening.

The KYTV story is well worth a read. https://www.wkyt.com/2024/10/18/they-finally-stopped-procedure-because-he-was-showing-too-many-signs-life-family-fights-organ-procurement-organizations-reform/ The televised bit contains such a damning quote about the US transplant process that it may well cut the number of donors as Muc-ed-0ff suggests. It will be interesting to see if the story gets any traction with the big US papers and news shows.

In fact, I saved their life!

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Oh well, nevermind.

Given that he died in 1994, and GPS was developed through the 70's she needn't feel that it is so sad.

The actual quote from the article makes a bit more sense...

“I always say it’s so sad that Kurt Cobain died when he did,” she said, “because he never saw GPS, as it’s the most wonderful thing to watch my little blue spot walking down the street. I just find it completely magical and unbelievable.”

Guardian sub editors clearly not immune to clickbait headlines.

This is completely over my head.

RIP Kurt, you would have loved Citymapper.

Possibly the worst or the best thing I've ever seen or heard. I can't decide which

https://youtu.be/uhAp3o71U48?si=qOFq3jpuziNL4lij

Even that expanded quote is bonkers, I don’t think the subs took much of a liberty tbh

This twat today. Builder renovating a shop. Parked the the bike lane, right on a busy intersection. Plugged his van in to charge!

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Don't people get a ticket for that?