Coffee Appreciation

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  • Have any Gaggia Classic owners replaced/upgraded their steam valve to the new Shades of Coffee one?

    Drips don't really bother and (in theory) the Gaggiuino will compensate for any water/pressure losses, but I dislike the steam constantly leaking

    EDIT : Just realised, loosing pressure via the steam valve will be affecting the brew, most notably the pre-infusion duration because the profile I typically use is free falling pressure driven

  • Took delivery of the DF54 yesterday and, crikey, it's streets ahead of the Iberital MC2. Think I might use the latter for mocha pot grinds instead.

  • No, but it seems like an improvement if you need a new one. I can’t remember how much my replacement Gaggia one was, but it was in that ballpark and I also seem to remember the body on the new one was stainless steel and not brass like the 2008 original.

    I wouldn’t replace it just for the sake of replacing, because it’s a LOT of work. Full strip down basically. I’d try running some descaler through the valve first and see if that helps bed it back in.

  • I don’t normally use the steam arm on my Silvia but decided on having a latte today. After I’ve frothed the milk the shot comes out like this.

    What am I doing or not doing that I should shouldn’t be?


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  • No offence but it looks absolutely disgusting, haha. Looks like it has some gluey goo texture. Almost like a huge chunk of snot

  • I’m not 100% sure but suspect where the steam button has raised the boiler to steam temperature you’ve not allowed it to cool down again and the used steam/super hot water to try to extract the coffee…

    Best to make coffee then steam, and if you are making another coffee afterwards you need to allow time to cool down and purge the water in the boiler…

  • You need flush the boiler with cold water is my gut instinct.

  • This all makes sense. Thanks

  • I fitted the shades valve a week ago.
    Seems pretty good to me, no drips and seals up well.

    Fitting wasn’t bad either, didn’t need to remove anything else just two bolts on top of the boiler and the steam wand connection.

  • Aye, shot first then steam the milk 👍

    If you want to do a shot into steamed milk type drink, as @Kalkhoff said you’ll want to run a bit of water through the group head to cool it down before you pull the shot 👍

  • After buying one that was beyond the point of repair, I finally have my hands on one that works! Looking forward to getting acquainted with it and will report back.

  • Awesome. Means I can enjoy a latte or a cappuccino without anything weird going off now

  • Mazzer cancelled my order as it’s below the £135 threshold which would mean that they would need to gather and remit UK VAT.

    Would anyone be interested in ordering from Mazzer and could add a set of 189 Philos burrs to their order?

  • 😋


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  • PSA: Try not to pour a jug of water into your Sage Grinder mistaking it for your Gaggia reservoir.

    Thankfully I acted quickly and on the plus side, my Sage grinder has never been cleaner or drier inside. Fingers crossed it does as it should when I power it back on tomorrow : /

    (Tip: Well worth preparing yourself a quick coffee in the morning before you start making yourself a coffee)

  • Thankfully my worst instance of this sort of thing so far has been pouring whole beans into my V60

  • Another benefit of the SOC valve is that it's a half-turn (I think) to fully open.

    I've only replaced my steam valve 6 months ago, otherwise I'd probably get one.

  • Lucky! It seems ground coffee runs the risk of turning into a brown cement if you leave it.

    (this is the video I followed in case useful to anyone)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_9WC0rGWxw&ab_channel=TheEspressoDoctor

  • Thanks all, SOC valve incoming!

  • I have poured 20g of beans into my portafilter on a couple of occasions. Luckily the coffee machine is plumbed in so I have not had the opportunity to fill the grinder up with water.

  • On more than one occasion I have poured my freshly ground coffee into the kettle. I’ve also poured water into my hand grinder instead of the aeropress, to make it worse I was camping so there was no way to dry it out. I needed talking down from that one.

  • Putting the kettle “back” in the fridge

  • Once I put my coffee on my legs thinking it was my trousers! Embarrassing day at work

  • Update: turns out pouring water into your hopper means the water can trickle down to a small but important felt washer that sits underneath your grinder body.

    Being slightly damp and under tension when I gave it a test spin this morning meant it blew apart and now I'll be without grinder for 3-5 working days while I wait for a new one to arrive. :/

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