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The weird plot twist where Latino voters are turning towards Trump even though he is promising mass deportations seems unbelievable, yet I can't turn away

Maybe they think they get a free trip back home to visit family and then just come back?

It's just the standard 'get in, pull the ladder up' approach - my Brexiter Indian former in-laws were archetypes.

^ that.

Plus they assume he means the other sort. Not them surely, because that would be ridiculous. Right?

Facilitated by historically entrenched ‘othering’ of groups that are too vulnerable to defend themselves effectively. Bonus points if the group is exploited for their labour by the leadership group pointing fingers at them.

Is it time for the leopards/face meme?

In anarrative where Nick Fuentes and Kanye West sit down for lunch with Trump, there are no non-weird plot twists. Besides which, Latino white supremacists are nothing new.

Trigger: extreme disregard for life, drug use, abuse, nightmare fuel.

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Gonna x-post in epic wtf it’s that bad. Here’s possibly one of the worst wtfs in recent memory:

Better coverage: https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2024/10/16/nx-s1-5113976/organ-transplantion-mistake-brain-dead-surgery-still-alive

https://metro.co.uk/2024/10/18/organ-don­or-came-back-life-doctors-prepared-remov­e-heart-21819184/amp/

The article doesn’t do the story and the victim justice but it’s better than the Guardians pathetic attempt, which downplays the seriousness of it all.

In a paragraph: A middle-aged drug user has an overdose and is taken to hospital by his family. He’s declared braindead and the family agree to organ donation, including his heart. The patient is prepped for surgery and the family notice his eyes opening and tracking their specific movements, but they’re told it’s only reflexes. The patient starts “thrashing” about in their room, so medical staff sedate him. The patient is taken to the surgical ward and is seen crying. A transplant doctor has a minor breakdown and refuses to do the surgery. A representative from KODA, a for-profit transplant admin agency, calls their boss from the hospital to tell them the situation, and the boss demands they find a replacement doctor because the transplant needs to go ahead. The patient is eventually declared living and the surgery is aborted. He currently lives with his sister and has some cognitive and memory issues following the episode.

Basically, multiple people employed in the medical profession thought they could get away with killing a drug addict and taking his organs. Guy is alive by pure luck.

Yeah, one of my best mates has an Indian Dad and and Irish mum, they live in England and his Dad is a full Daily Mail reading, tory voting, all new immigrants are welfare sponging wasters type.

If you want to be scared and repulsed, check out this Guardian piece about the roles of Trump's family members https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/19/trump-family-melania-don-jr-ivanka-election then watch the video of his 17 year old granddaughter speaking at the Rep convention https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-17-year-old-granddaughter-kai-trump-speaks-rnc/

Wait, Musk is not at that lunch?

The golfer Arnold Palmer had a really big dick is what Trump is telling a rally in PA.

On that particular day, I think he was too busy firing people at Twitter.

The weird plot twist where Latino voters are turning towards Trump even though he is promising mass deportations seems unbelievable, yet I can't turn away

Having watched the surprisingly excellent Jane the Virgin, it occurs to me that another factor aside from those already mentioned is that many of them may be addicted to the melodrama of telenovellas?

Also the well documented reason that many of said latinos have recently escaped an oppressive and corrupt communist regime and are just vehemently anti left wing policies in general, even if that means pulling up the drawbridge

I’ve mentioned this before but the Sri Lankan/British chap I met on holiday earlier this year was nailed on as a Reform voter- said you couldn’t trust the rest and the immigration problem had to be solved to save the NHS.

He lived in North London, worked for the NHS as an immigrant. Obviously the leopards wouldn’t eat his face- they would be able to discern between good and bad immigrants as they stalked them.

Tragically, my mum’s gone down this road.

Asylum seeker from Soviet Ukraine in 1990 as a single mum wielding two kids, one 6yo one 5 months, no English and no choice but to work as a cleaner whilst claiming benefits and living in a bed & breakfast single room with said kids.

Did well for herself in time, and now a raging anti-immigrant tory voter. Breaks my heart.

latinos .. [that] ... are just vehemently anti left wing policies in general

I worked with some of these. From the Cuban community in Miami. I think they reasoned that immigrants of the right kind would still get trough somehow. I guess they favoured those that were already middle- or upper class in their birth country. They may not be that far from the truth either, no policy will realistically deliver absolute zero immigration, so for some voters it becomes a matter of being in a position to dictate how the flow should be filtered.

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So what's this petition thing that Musk is paying people to sign? Does it actually mean something? I've only seen US articles on it which assume you know the basics.

Hasn't he proposed paying people to register to vote also?

His petition says "The First and Second Amendments guarantee freedom of speech and the right to bear arms. By signing below, I am pledging my support for the First and Second Amendments." If you sign you enter a lottery.

You have to go to one of his MAGA events in swing states to sign. Anyone who is registered to vote can enter. Including democrats. One person a day wins $1m. He hopes this will encourage unregistered right wingers to register and vote republican. He's also hoping that dems won't go to the events.

Law enforcement are looking into this. He says the lottery angle makes it legal. Others disagree.

What lawsuit is Musk wanting a Trump pardon for?

His companies have lots of lucrative contracts with federal agencies, Trump has promised him a role to lead a 'government efficiency commission', which would give him license to control the regulators who oversee these contracts. His troubles with many of these regulators are well documented.

It's basically a huge conflict of interest that no sane President would countenance.

no sane President

One would argue that, in trumps shoes, it’s an entirely sane move to make. He’s just craven and totally corrupt to a degree no president has ever countenanced.