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  • Didn’t catch your edit:

    the notion that we might be able to seize some agency and DIY a way out of this?

    Yeah that sounds great. And basically what I think too. But, sadly, this takes some serious effort in real life, not on a couple of politics threads on the internet, even though that might make a small difference (depending on how reasonable you come across)

  • sadly, this takes some serious effort in real life, not on a couple of politics threads on the internet

    Yeah, well, obviously - but how does it start? Everything we ever achieved as a species, we did it by cooperating. Which begins with communication.

    Have you ever actually changed someone’s opinion? I’m not sure I ever have. This shit takes decades, and I’m sorry, it just does.

    My theory regarding that aspect is that on the whole, neurodivergent folks are the ones to make it happen. We tend to click, and arguments are more likely to be hair-splitting, interesting, productive ones rather than screaming abuse over an unbridgeable void. Caring more about facts and words than status and nonverbal cues goes a long way.

    So changing opinions isn't really the immediate goal - gather a bunch of like-minded peeps who tend to say hell yeah to each other, and get on with hammering out a bunch of details necessary to get the ball rolling. When it starts snowballing, folks on the edge of the spectrum get interested, and their skillsets can be utilised to bust out the semiotic bullshit necessary to attract the normies - ie marketing.

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