Running

Sub 10°C and the leggings come out
Smelly helly long sleeve under a T-shirt
Gloves and buff

Then I’m too hot

I remember running in a sleeting storm
It was about 4° I was in shorts & tee I felt utterly comfortable like that was the most perfect temperature ever (as long as i maintained that pace)

Still didn't manage to nudge under 3hrs at Dorney today. Legs fell off a metaphorical cliff and significant cardiac drift with about 10k to go, and the windward legs back towards the boat house really took their toll. Ran a PB by a bit over a minute as a consolation prize, but the hunt for the elusive sub-3 continues (I think higher training volume/more longer runs are on the cards)

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That’s a great run, congrats on the PR, too. Looks like sub 3 is well within reach.

Interesting heart rate drift though - it jumped up a fair bit about 45 percent in. Maybe went out too fast but looks like you were in the 150s which should be comfortable (obviously everyone’s different so generalising here).

What was the nutrition/hydration on it?

32k (20 miles) is always the marker where it starts to fall apart if you haven't got the pacing, depth of training, and/or nutrition/hydration right.

Keep at it. Train to run at 2:55 pace or lower to give yourself the wiggle room in performance.

Thank you :) trying to take heart in the PB, but also disappointing not to achieve what you set out to do.

Agreed the HR jump looks odd. It's coming from a optical HR monitor on my watch so can be error prone/inaccurate. Generally felt pretty comfortable albeit was running marginally faster than target 4.13 pace. Hard to keep a steady pace given the number of runners "only" doing a half, and the fact that 50% of the course was into a block headwind. I was regularly taking water from the 2x aid stations, plus a gel every 40 mins or so.

My own conclusions are I started to go hypoglycemic around the 35k mark, which coupled with the dehydration and relatively shallow training training pool. Next time: train to absorb more carbohydrates/hour, get more 30k+ training runs in the bank, don't "push" into the headwind on the 3rd lap of the course only to blow up on the 4th...

plus a gel every 40 mins or so.

How many g carbs per gel? I'm working at 60g/hr, I think bodyweight needs factoring in too though.

I think the ones I have are 30g. It's not something I've ever looked to push the limits on, but this is the first time going full lights out at an event. Generally do quite a lot of my training around family/work, which means nutrition is normally sub-optimal (fasted early mornings/after work) and I don't often use gels during training. Something to change to break 3 hrs I think. I'm 68-69kgs usually

Ran a local half marathon yesterday having not ran more than 16km in one go since Dublin marathon about 12 months ago.

I spent the first half of this year focusing on improving 5k time which was of course a lot of intensity but not massive volume in terms of long runs anyway, followed by a couple of months of start/stop due to foot and calf niggles.

My plan was to run easy/z2 heart rate, but I was feeling good warming up so decided to ignore the watch and try to run to feel. I’ve never run to feel, I guess I don’t trust myself to know how I feel, but it was enlightening! I ran a 15s PB despite the lack of specific conditioning and don’t feel any soreness (but plenty of stiffness) today. It was a lumpy course but ran fairly even splits in terms of pace and HR

What would people recommend for a running watch that's available for around the £100 mark? New or used.

I've got a very basic Forerunner 25 which has become a bit unreliable and the strap is breaking.

£100 is a tough budget.

I have forerunner 45s which I really rate. Small, decent battery, wrist HR and all the usual features. I’d always be wary of used Garmins, they seem to do a brisk trade in refurbs which promptly fail again.

I took a punt on a used Suunto 9 baro recently that was £90 a while ago, pretty happy with it so far. HR is not as accurate as a chest strap but not awful and they have navigation which is a plus for me

Venu used?

Are there any social, open street running events in London on a Saturday evening? Can't do parkrun this morning due to childcare issues

Also at Abingdon this year.

Hope you're all set for tomorrow? Weather looks Type 2 fun.

I'll be in a very bright vest incase we need rescuing.

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I’ll come and say hi if I see you!

Nice one, hope you have a good race either way 👍

And you fella

Great to meet you @Well_is_it, & great running once again.

2h59 for me, so happy to dip under the 3hr barrier at last.

Back to xc now, hoping to finally make it to the national in London, and then a summer of 5k's in 2025 I think.

Great meeting you too @rhb, was stoked seeing you cross the line at that time.

Was my first official marathon, made all the bit more meaningful as I DNF’d last year after stupidly starting with a stress fracture I’d picked up in training and it took me out for three months after doing 14km on it.

Finished today at 2:55:12, which I’m super pleased with, and the splits are good. The looped course gave us a fully grim headwind going south east but a bit of a taily coming back up.

Thighs were fully hurting at 30km so that part was a battle, as it always is.

Was my first official marathon, made all the bit more meaningful as I DNF’d last year after stupidly starting with a stress fracture I’d picked up in training and it took me out for three months after doing 14km on it.

Returning to remedy that experience must've added to the glow at the finish. Well done once again.

I've really enjoyed getting into running this year, but now the weather has turned I'm not enjoying coming home with wet feet every time. Not to mention my trainers are constantly filthy from road grime. What do you guys do for winter trainers? Suck it up, or are waterproof running shoes worth it?

Waterproof shoes - Not worth it - once wet ,they can take ages to dry out.

3 pairs of trainers used in rotation so they have a chance to dry out between runs.

Other than that I don't care about wet feet or filthy trainers.

Damn both under 3hr! Well done rhb and well_is_it.

I've had good results with waterproof Pegasus on pavement but last year I ran in normal shoes with sealskin socks in and liked that a lot. The socks held up really well and I got to choose whichever shoes I wanted.

https://www.sealskinz.com/collections/waterproof-socks?