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  • Tbf this approach is fundamental to the left.

    You can't be a libertarian who believes in centralised and collective decision making.

  • you can have centralised and collective planning of service provision free from market informed moral constraints as slippers notes. it's central to a lot of modern social democratic thinking. but as mark fisher is famed for noting, to conceptualise this stuff under late stage capitalism feels equal to imaging fantasy books.

    less in jest, saying a wesley is paternalististic, isn't a critique of paternalism as a whole, but how said politician uses that specific facet to the degree it's overbearing in his decision making. to justify otherwise contrarian positions. as slippers mentions elsewhere, any normal socially democratic person would be lording how this is universally promising.

  • but as mark fisher is famed for noting, to conceptualise this stuff under late stage capitalism feels equal to imaging fantasy books

    Maybe I'm more optimistic, but I prefer Graeber's quote which seems to me like a direct response to Capitalist Realism: "The ultimate hidden truth of the world is that it is something that we make, and could just as easily make differently" 🙂

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