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  • Yeah, allowing sovereign nations to own football clubs definitely isn’t having any deleterious effects on the game, and the Saudi league isn’t going to fuck things up by inflating prices / wages and draining talent at a younger and younger age.

    And it’s not “going to play in a shit league for money”, it’s actively engaging in sportswashing for an authoritarian regime that has no compunctions with murder / torture / etc. The two can’t be separated.

  • Please point out where I suggested

    sovereign nations to own football clubs definitely isn’t having any deleterious effects on the game

    Obviously it is. Sovereign nations plus the multi club model (e.g. the City Group) is even worse.

    I think the Saudi League ship has already sailed, and it's no longer going to be as attractive as it was in 2023, any more than the MLS is.

    I'm probably going to stop explaining what you're wilfully misunderstanding soon, but my comment on Klopp is mainly that he's not even following the crowd in doing something that is obviously bad (sportswashing, selling out), he's actually deciding to give his blessing and the remains of his credibility to something a bit more original but also highly damaging to football.

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