In the news

Pretty strong headline from El Diario today shows the difference in sentiment in Spain regarding events in the Middle East. Translation is "A year of genocide leaves 42,000 Palestinians dead and the Middle East in flames".

The subhead, which I didn't mean to crop, says "The Isreali government acuses Spain of being "a paradise to sow hatred".

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https://youtu.be/FAAQVntpk00?t=1379&si=oSjzJsDe9IVvq_Iv

So the Ocean Gate sensors worked, they just ignored them. Looks like the hull got cracked at some point and they just continued on

My favourite was when Lagos Island restaurant on Lea Bridge Road told inspectors opening a container of putrid rotting raw chicken not to worry cos it was actually ‘crab meat’ and they must have never seen any before.

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Misunderstanding of k-hole?

They don't mean the egg, they mean the capsule inside the egg. The capsules have been used for stashing for many years.

I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/oct/07/uks-22bn-carbon-capture-pledge-follows-surge-in-lobbying-by-fossil-fuel-industry-records-show

So has the botty

From this time last year

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12550195/Worst-takeaway-Britain-uk-food.html

We always check before going anywhere new, or for the first time in a while: https://ratings.food.gov.uk/

And I'll happily report any filthy cunts with a misleading sticker in the window.

Really? You never just go somewhere?

The website takes 2mins to check.

I've had gastroenteritis twice. I don't want it a third time.

It's worth understanding what pertains to a score of 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 though. I'd eat at a 3; generally it means the kitchen is managed like mine and yours: clean, but possibly without a fastidious method of stock control. For example.

These dirty cunts will have been a 0: https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/398207/?offset=50#comment17502859

Chatham pocket.

kitchen is managed like mine and yours: clean, but possibly without a fastidious method of stock control.

There's loads of stuff I don't do at home that I used to do in commercial kitchens. I don't wipe down the fridge/freezer seals every day. I don't mop my kitchen floor twice a day (at least). I don't have separate sinks for washing hands (i.e. non food prep sink).

The closest I've come is to try and introduce day dotting, but I can't get the other residents on board with this. Mostly it's just a visual inspection and the sniff test.

The BBC article is a little wayward in places. Having traps isn't evidence of a rodent problem. Places rated a 5 should have them, you have a rodent problem if they ever catch anything. In the 10+ years I worked in commercial kitchens I never saw anything in any of the traps and Rentokil would be round regularly to check on the traps, replace them and report if they had ever even had anything close to a nibble let alone a dead rodent.

You obviously know much more than I do. What's your threshold FSA Hygiene Rating for putting you off eating somewhere?

It's 25 years since I worked in a commercial kitchen but I'm probably the same as you; I'd actively avoid eating in anything 2 or lower.

All three of us have pretty iron constitutions though, we've escaped unscathed where others have had problems.

Good to know!

My real concern, is how underfunded the system is. The last place I was at the Chef had a fridge full of out of date stock, which was hand waved away by a note on the door saying "not for use for customer products", and denying the fact that he kept Sausage rolls un-refrigerated for a couple of days, reheating them each morning.

We got a 3, and were deemed good enough to not need any further checking, and most of that amounted to knowing what to say

Yikes. Where was this?

Ha, that would be telling 🫣

I was mostly confident that we weren't going to make people sick, but it was more to point out that it's not super hard to score a 3, and then never be checked on again

I'd add, as someone who's filled in the food handling documents before. The bar is very low for the first numbers, separate chopping boards for meat and veg, labeling food containers etc. Getting a 0 is pretty much rubbing raw chicken on everything, reheating whatever, never cleaning the floor.

One of the best Chinese takeaways in SE1 had 2 stars, recently they have achieved 5 stars and I'm perversely disappointed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgey8q8r4zpo

Chat shit, get banged.

Has the food changed?

I'm starting to think Rebekah Vardy enjoys public humiliation almost as much as Liz Truss.