I want to get a dog but I have to work, how does everyone on broadway market do it ?

Barry sounds like a right cunt.
Some urgency is all that's needed isn't it?
Barry isn't going to stop until Barry has a reason to stop. And I don't think food is the answer here.

He def is.

You mean urgency from the owners? That is absolutely all I want or expect. They can't control barry's ravings, but they can at least look like they're trying to intervene at a reasonable pace.... and not advocate fight club as a reasonable resolution!

Owen will most likely have his balls off after christmas, so hopefully that chills Barry out. It is definitely more than the normal 'small dog growling at big dog' which is a vibe you get and I reckon that's what you're talking about @Oliver Schick - I think this is some sort of hormonal aggression which has got stuck in the mind of this particular terrier. they are monomaniacal at the best of times - I mean, we've literally bred that instinct into them, but it's coming out here in Bazza's fixation with Owen.

"Get your dog or this will get ugly!"
"Cunt!" (Optional)

I would guess the terrier is whole also, it sounds like that kind of dynamic. But crappy of the owners not to stop it from happening.

Any advice on how to tell a vizla “fuck off, my dog is telling you no”.

Maybe, try saying it in Hungarian?

V good. rep

That was my first thought tbf.

The positives sounds like the owners of Bazza recognise this is an issue. They seem to at least be communicating. Sounds like you’d both benefit from resolving it?
How well trained is Barry generally? Could some de-sensitisation work help?
Could they turn him away on lead, return, repeat?

I say that like I have any real knowledge. I’m still very much learning

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Sorry @Coop Dolly has been at the blackberries again.

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Smol

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I’ve just been through a season, my dog can’t be in heat again. Can it? Why is everyone trying to get their head in her bits?

Dogs… not sure you can fully explain all the things you wish you could.

The 'hey baby' whiff lingers for a week or so after the season has finished, much to the annoyance of the bitch and her owner.

Big weekend, off lead first time, pub lunch, and a trip to central London. I’m blown away by the difference Shadow is already making…

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Ace!

She finished in August!
AUGUST!!

Was dogsittering this guy yesterday. Brought my dog round in the hope they'd get along and have a good time but not all dogs are meant to be friends. This one is lovely but 1 year old and lost his mum/owner a fortnight back, so in hindsight, maybe not the best time to try. Wasn't awful, an arguement over food and mine just stayed on the other side of the room, they were pretty chilled by the evening but probably won't sort out playdates fur next time.

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The communication isn't great. In the past week I've had another "I think we should just let them settle this themselves", then the chap got upset because I put Owen on lead when Barry charged over, then grabbed him by the collar as he started aggressing towards Owen. His point was "you set this up to happen, Owen can easily outrun him" - this is undoubtedly true, but ignores the fact that Owen submits to most other dogs and a couple of times has laid down in the face of Barry's aggression which just exposes his bellow. If that happened at distance no-one would be able to intervene.

I do appreciate that this is almost certainly an excess of caution, but the chances are certainly not 0 that Barry puts his teeth on Owen, so there's no real reason for me to do anything other than ask them to control their dog and step in when I need to. If they came up to me constructively and asked about desensitisation I'd be thrilled! TBH, if they muzzled him I'd be up for all sorts of attempted introductions/solutions etc. I do appreciate that this must be really annoying for them. And stressful. But they're not handling it very well.

How about :
when it happens again, you deescalate it all. And then try and have a chat?
(i don't know if you've done this already)
And say "look, my dog is having a bad time with your dog. We're both nice people. I don't want them to sort it out themselves. It looks to me like your dog, being a terrier, isn't going to let it go and will keep coming back and I am concerned there will be some blood spilt. no one wants this do they? "

Yeah, it's hard because Barry's aggression is so extreme that this chat would be had whilst hanging him by his lead growling/yapping/barking and Owen getting increasingly stressed. The vibe is not conducive to calm and reasoned conversation. The only thing to be done at the time is for him to be taken away. I am hopeful I'll bump into them without Owen at some point because I would love to explain to them what my concerns actually are. If they were to say "I'm sorry, i appreciate it's a bit intense, but we've seen him do this many times before and it's all bark, he never actually goes for the other dog" I'd feel loads more comfortable. But they've never said that, and I get the distinct impression that this is a new behaviour/a bit shocking to them, which is why I remain particularly concerned for Owen in the whole thing.....

How about a note ready to pass with contact details to meet for a coffee?
If it’s that regular and stressful probably needs addressing?

I'm not sure I want to go for a coffee with them but I get your drift. I'm relatively comfortable that I can handle it (when I see Barry, Owen on lead, I grab Barry's collar when he gets too close and wait till someone comes to collect him) so my main complaint is just their approach to the situation.

I hear you. The vizla we keep meeting hasn't calmed down any around Bailey and it's just boring now. It doesn't look like it'll ever stop, it doesn't look like Bailey is ever going to say "Baszd meg" to the other dog. So we're stuck in this "oh hello, come on now lets stop this" before both going our separate ways.

In unrelated/maybe related news: can anyone explain phantom pregnancies. I'm not seeing mothering or nesting or aggression or vomiting or lethargy (right lethargy...).

I am seeing anxiety, pulling, swollen mammaries, and barking at the noises outside.
In Bailey. Not me. And a bit more desire to be close.