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  • Human progress has always come at a cost, but usually it's a short term cost than benefits more people in the long term.

    At the risk of invoking Godwin's law, when you're using basically the same supporting argument as the final solution, you might want to reflect on whether you're on the wrong side of the debate.

  • You invoked that, not me.

    I'd use examples like the mechanisation of farming, which saw concerned farm labourers breaking the machines that replaced them, but far fewer people spend their lives doing physical hard labour out in the open all year round now.

    AI can make positive efficiency gains. When I was a post-grad student, the lab I was working with had created what was then called an expert system, that was trained to assess mammograms for signs of breast cancer. It's use meant that the medical team could focus on the mammograms it had tagged as worthy of investigation, rather than having to assess every single one themselves. This reduced their workload enormously.

    Personally, I don't see any real ethical concern with systems like that.

  • You invoked that, not me.

    Um, yeah, that's what I was saying.

    And funnily enough, I had meant to mention upthread that one of the clear positive use cases was this exact type of medical application. But I would also point out this is just very sophisticated machine learning/pattern recognition. No worries there from me. Big thumbs up. But it's a world away from the much more worrying wank-fantasies of king edge lord Elon Musk and his Stans.

    Edit: what @t-v just said, a hundred times more intelligently and articulately than I could.

  • far fewer people spend their lives doing physical hard labour out in the open all year round now.

    Is that a good thing? looks at beer gut

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