That Starmer fella...

That’s how it’s been since the end of WW2.

The global political landscape has evolved greatly since then. Do we not expect to evolve our policies or are we basically cursed to follow America till the end?

Your guess is as good as mine, but as long as they are a superpower and we haven’t come to terms with the loss of empire, then I think it’s unlikely to change.

Do we not expect to evolve our policies or are we basically cursed to follow America till the end?

No, yes.

I mean, Spain, Ireland and a few others all recognised Palestine in the last few months and were signatories on the ICJ case, so I'd say as non-arms dealing countries they've used a number of avenues available to them.

i think to real politik dads a new batch of seemingly progressive, sensible labour politicians turning out to be racist neocon puppets of the american state department will be unsuprising. welcomed even if done in the right liberal optics, for their 'pragmatism' and 'realistic approach' to protect british interests or maintain stability.

on the other hand those who voted for a human rights lawyer who called the iraq war illegal, on a campaign of doing politics differently, i can imagine it comes as quite an upsetting annoyance. if not shock.

new labour is back in all its trimmings.

I agree with this as a centrist dad :(

The only diff with new labour and new new labour is that UK isnt the country it was (I guess).

Any chance of getting a TLDR version of the last two weeks whilst removing any political bias.

PFI, austerity and war; or: new labour’s back baby, awooooooooooooo

Stahmagedden.

British American Project

removing any political bias.

lol

The right of the Labour party conspired to get rid of Corbyn for the simple reason that he wished to pursue an independent(of the U.S.) foreign policy.
Corbyn threatened to recognise Palestine. The City and its bankers didn't care about Corbyn's domestic policies. After all, his ideas were pretty main stream in Europe. It would seem that we are destines to follow U>S policy come what may.

lol

Pretty sure that's not the only reason.

I think attempts by “the right of the Labour Party” to get rid of Corbyn failed spectacularly, cf Owen Smith’s leadership attempt. He quit because he couldn’t win elections.

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Labour don’t win elections, the Tories lose them.

lol.

The Labour right got Corbyn to pivot from a soft brexit to a second referendum, which pretty much lost him the 2019 election. Funny how all the #fbpe useful idiots are now happy with Starmer’s “Brexit means Brexit” stance.

Every single poll you’ll find tells you that if Corbyn hadn’t flipped to a second ref position, 2019 would’ve been worse. We’d have been down to 125 seats instead of the 200 or so. Instead of losing the red wall we’d have lost the cities.

In may 2019 labour came fourth in the London elections.

Fourth. Because of that hard brexit fudge.

And yet this piffle persists. Even Owen jones recognises it was the right move. And the right didn’t force him into it. Electoral reality did.

When asked to define Labour's foreign policy objective, the then Labour PM
Blair said ' The goal is to wedge the UK's head so tightly and so far up the White House's arsehole that there's no daylight'.
How far has Starmer got?

I believe he is crowning.

I genuinely thought "carbon capture" was discarded as unserious thing, is this true?

Mostly the captured carbon is utilised to extract more fossil fuels that would otherwise be un-economical to extract, so it's found a new lease of life

https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/07/to-help-with-climate-change-carbon-capture-will-have-to-evolve/

(Also this article seems to suggest that the money was already committed by the previous government, but I can't find a reference for that)