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@branwen
Have had the open backed version of these since 2017, again pretty good value for money
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00IMEXEMC/ref=sspa_mw_detail_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9kZXRhaWwp13NParams