• I think I read somewhere that the Rune person uses the same factories as crust, and there was some animosity between them because crust gave them a load of info that they then used without declaring that were going to do so.

    Or something. Might be miles off and it was other brands not Rune.

    I think they look cool. Not as cool as your superb collection of Singulars.

    I think I'll eventually replace my AWOL with a peregrine too some day.

  • Yes, there was some beef on Instagram etc. I found it all a bit blown up and exaggerated tbh.
    There are soooo many steel frames coming from those factories in Taiwan.
    Brother, Fairlight, Crust, Soma all QBP (All-city, Surly etc...) most likely the Peregrine too and now also people who used to make all their frames by hand like Sklar. It's all the same and for a reason. Those factories actually churn out really good frames.

    In my opinion, Crust acted very much like they invented big tyred rando / gravel bikes with a classic touch. I feel like that's a very US centric perspective. They forget, that the US is not the sole inventor of gravel/offroad riding and that before there were any of these Instagram cult bikes or figures there were french randonneurs, english touring bikes (Raleigh!) and things like the Rough Stuff Fellowship. Before there was a Fabs Chest there was a Carradice waxed canvas saddle bag etc...
    It's all been done before and inspired by each other. I assume Rune and Crust also don't necessarily overlap too much in market share. It's ridiculously expensive to import a crust to the EU / UK and the other way around.

    A much more appropriate criticism of "that Rune Person" was/is that he supported some discriminating policies against trans people in the cycling world. This almost did cost him agreements with dealers in the UK. He has since apologised for his statements.

  • Think that's a pretty good summary. Didn't know the last bit 😕

  • Crust acted very much like they invented big tyred rando / gravel bikes with a classic touch.

    I mean Singular have literally been making the same bikes as Crust do for 15yrs now haven't they? Quick Google says Crust started in 2014, so what about 5yrs after the Singular Peregrine came out?

    And not to be too harsh, but the Evasion basically looks like a tarted up LHT with reasonable sizing geometry.

  • Couldn't have summarised it better. More bike manufacturers offering options, variety and diversity to the world is definitely A Good Thing.

    The transphobia thing was interesting - I (and a few of my friends) reached out and spoke to the owner when he liked something transphobic online, during which he went full circle with doubling down, arguing against, denying and then finally accepting the discriminatory nature of his actions. It's a nice affirmation that being a nasty person online can have almost instantaneous consequences, anyway.

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