brazilian jiu jitsu

I,m with the 'champ' now, I told him what I wrote here,he extolles the virtues of BJJ

FWIW, something I didn't add earlier, I think Judo is probably the stronger grappling art from a self-defense perspective. I didn't enjoy training it as much from a sport perspective but there's no doubt in my mind its more effective. Properly smashing someone into a concrete floor is gonna leave them in a bad enough shape to give you the opportunity to either run off or do what you gotta do.

If you want an MMA perspective, as someone who liked playing guard off their back, when I sparred with Judo Jimmy Wallhead he always fucked me up on the takedowns so bad that I just went straight into survival mode each time.

Tricky to know what works best.

Any fight is such a chaotic sequence of events.

McGregor didn't really connect in his defeat, but it could be said he was not as effective up weight. He certainly got caught which slowed him down. Be interesting to see rematch.

I guess the KO kicks and punches are more predictable than groundwork holds and chokes.

So probably less effective overall?

A master of the ring is a master of defence. Look at Mayweather. Actually don't. Boring as fuck.

I started with free style wrestling in school. Have 10 prof MMA fights with not the best record(5-5). Bjj Purple belt. In London was training at London Shootfighters before I moved to France.

McCgregor did connect though and Diaz took them.
McCgregor appeared to crumble after Diaz connected though. I watched it again yesterday evening actually and it doesn't look good for McCgregor. Lots of pressure, lots of pressure, some punches connecting, lots of pressure...then the same in round 2 until he gets hit and it all goes downhill from there.
I think it'll go the same way again because this time Diaz will have a full camp to prepare rather than the 10 days he got for this.

I thought he simply gassed in the second. That, on top of incredible hubris...he was fighting so far away from his typical mass, it seemed his power just wasn't there to rock his natural weighted opponent.

He'd be an idiot to try again at that weight against someone that will have a training camp behind him next time. IMO, natch.

Well I guess everyone will be queuing up now. It is certainly interesting to see the confidence literally get knocked out of somebody. He needs to carefully build back up on smaller cards.

Every dog has it's day?

Nah I don't think so because he trained hard for the fight, he's not known as someone that gets knackered early and hasn't shown it before. That said he hasn't really had a chance to prove it except his three rounds with Max Holloway and he didn't get puffed out in that win.

Exactly, that's what he should be doing but the joker wants, and has succeeded in securing, a rematch with Diaz. If it wasn't for the $$$$$$ I would say fair play. It's a real shame he's not giving Edgar the shot he deserves though.

Then where was his movement in the second. Why were his hands so low and his avoidance technique flat?
Fighters his own weight wouldn't have stood up to the punishment he dished out to Diaz in the first and still kept coming. I think he would have been a bit discouraged and lost it upstairs a little.

Well it may be a foregone conclusion, but some would say the only way back is the deep end...

We shall see.

I've been training for 3 years and try to make it to the gym 5 times a week, it's changed my life completely and I couldn't recommend it enough. Every gym is different though, the history of bjj and the different teaching lineages have resulted in it being a really fragmented martial art with connnnnstant arguments between practitioners over techniques, approaches, mentality and especially the pros and cons of sport bjj vs more self-defence/Gracie inspired jiu jitsu. i.e. the difference between teaching/learning techniques with the intention of scoring points in a competition vs techniques that hunt for submissions ('tapping out' of your opponent/training partner if you like). UFC is still doing great things to popularise bjj (especially with Diaz vs McGregor type events) but if you haven't watched the very first UFC events, do it now! You'll want to train as a result! Love it, obsessed by it and can honestly say that as long as you train smart, tap early, warm up, warm down, breathe properly and try to relax, the risk of injury is hugely minimized! Oh and Roger Gracie Academy Gymbox in Farringdon is where you want to train, trust me.

Tempting a lunge from Diaz? I dunno but I'm struggling to see it as him being gassed. I reckon you're right about being discouraged and losing it a bit - when he walks back to his corner after the 1st round the confidence isn't there in his eyes like it is at the start.

Blimey totally forgot I made this thread. I'm not looking to fight in any way. I would be useless in a fight. Just like training hard and it's an area I over look. Massive core work out and cv. Already doing lots of skipping and hiit and calesthenics

There's a bjj gym that do a 4 week free option so will give it a try

https://youtu.be/zviX_cftAeM