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That the thing, the previous generation have a decent R+S progression that I managed to fit a lots of people who’s under 5’2 with a short stem (60mm), now it’s a good 20mm longer making it harder to fit them.
The only other bike that I can fit shorter people on is the Specialized Diverge whose reach is a mimiscal 355mm.
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RE Croix de Fer chat Ed, that's Alb Steward's good work, updating where it was originally. CdF in the early days wasn't as precise on R+S progression. tbh R+S wasn't really a thing we used in 2007-2008.