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• #89852
I feel like this comment is just ripe with jokes, but the phrase ‘invest in escalators’ is so funny.
Imagining some guy with a whiteboard, escalators go up, graph goes up!
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• #89853
Tobacco duties raise £8.8 billion.
The NHS isn't the only cost. ASH put it at £49.2 billion in England.
I'm sure some of their figures are disputed.
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• #89854
I do miss all the pubs that have closed down - this proposal could easily kill off a few more.
I don't have a source readily at hand, but I recall statistics showing that bar and restaurant revenues went up after smoking bans were rolled out in various European countries.
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• #89855
Tabasco duties raise £8.8 billion.
Wow, and I thought Brits couldn't handle anything spicier than a Chicken Tikka.
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• #89856
In other news I really shouldn't post without my glasses on.
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• #89857
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3249552/
"Our results indicate that smoke-free laws do not affect restaurant revenue directly or as a share of private consumption even in a country known for its harsh climate. There is some evidence for a short-run effect on pub revenue as a share of private consumption, but there is no evidence of a short-run effect on the absolute level of pub revenue and no evidence for a long-run effect using either measure."
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• #89858
I wonder if increasing tobacco duties 10x would have a more significant effect on the number of people smoking. Maybe we should do both
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• #89859
Legalise weed, ban smokes and disposable vapes.
Wins all 'round :D
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• #89860
Might cause a massive increase in smuggling and things that are sold as tobacco but aren't.
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• #89861
Even whathisname who runs Weatherspoons says it will have very little impact on his business
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• #89862
Fair enough.
Hadn't considered the cost of people taking 20 min smoke breaks every 20 min.
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• #89864
I don't think many spoons have beer gardens
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• #89865
That would only mean you stop poor people smoking. Or, as has been said, force them to seek even more dangerous supplies.
When I used to smoke back in NI, I used to get cheap 50g packs of Golden Virginia from under the counter at a local off licence. I then learned that it wasn't just truck drivers bringing back duty free (as the obviously trustworthy off licence chap told me), but smuggled counterfeit shit that was funding local paramilitary groups. So I was unknowingly killing myself even faster AND putting money into the pockets of Johnny Adair and his mates.
I was even a hypocritical smoker in that I could never stand the smell of someone else's smoke. Cleaning the ashtrays out in the pubs I worked at was worse to me than cleaning the toilets (and if you've ever been in the Gents in the Commercial in Herne Hill, you'll know that's a bold statement).
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• #89866
Well done on the 10 years +
The “hospitality industry” only cares about profits in a dwindling demographic.
They don’t complain about supermarkets selling cheap booze
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• #89867
They don’t complain about supermarkets selling cheap booze
Yeah they do...
Tim Martin, founder of the JD Wetherspoon chain, said competition from supermarkets was “a big challenge for pubs”, with the disparity in prices between the two widening in recent decades. This was “causing people to drink more at home”, he said.
FT. 2024-04-29 - Britons avoid the pub as cost of living weighs on leisure spending
https://www.ft.com/content/0d0dfe06-ffe9-447a-839c-78de94b90a0f
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• #89868
They don’t complain about supermarkets selling cheap booze
They definitely do
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• #89869
Next sensible step would be banning alcohol
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• #89870
Next sensible step would be banning people
ftfy
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• #89871
Pubs are in competition with Whatsapp groupchats not supermarkets.
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• #89872
Finally a proposal we can all get behind
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• #89873
I’ve never seen it in the papers
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• #89874
Ban whatsapp as well. Buzzing with policy ideas in here today.
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• #89875
British people love banning shit.
Doesn’t tax on cigarettes bring in more than twice that amount?
Smoking is shit and should be banned but they’re a next tax positive on direct care.