Bike Anti-Porn - When Things Go Wrong

Oof

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^ As frankly ridiculous as that is, I love it.

Agreed! Struggling to wrap my head around how an old 26" takes road wheels and lines up with a caliper brake but is awesome!

Warspite, owner or homage?

Technically interesting but pointless if an all carbon frame with similar geometry can be had for a quarter of the price.

Warspite was a homage to my grandfather's ship.
I get the price of bespoke is hard to justify, but then again why should anyone spend 5000 on a bishop frame when an on-one would also do?

I have been tempted to go for a carbon tube/alloy lug for my non standard physique.
Some builders say an all ti or all carbon is better. Maybe with modern glues they are? I do remember Vitus and Alan frames coming apart, that’s what stops me.

I do remember Vitus and Alan frames coming apart, that’s what stops me

That shouldn't be what stops you

Must be 650c (571mm) wheels. A bit closer to 559s.

Struggling to wrap my head around how an old 26" takes road wheels

It's lucky that the brake lines up nicely, but 700C in a 26" MTB usually works. The rolling diameter of 25-622 is ~26.5", 50-559 with knobs on is ~26.5" too. From there you just have to see what mud clearance you can dispense with to fit fatter road tyres, but old MTB frames tend to be generous on diameter which you can exploit once you've got over the fact that they're sparing on width. I'd be surprised if a 90s MTB wouldn't take at least a 38-622 tyre.

Guys. The canti studs have been removed. There is no rear brake. The front is mounted through the fork crown.

This thing on marketplace for a mere 10k

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It seems to be a stock model with a RRP of $13,500 in the US? https://www.bellissimoto.com/E-Bikes/E-Bikes-for-sale/moto-parilla-carbon-suv-e-bike

It's a grown up version of this

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Haha lol the shape really is identical

For a dual suspension fat e-bike (e-fat bike?) I reckon it actually looks pretty alright, except for the silliness of the upper part of the frame

looks pretty alright, except for the silliness of the upper part of the frame

I'm just disappointed that the chunky front hub doesn't contain a second motor. How can you call it a proper SUV if it doesn't have AWD?

Interesting. Has anyone figured out why the Italians have both the best and worst design sensibilities?

Has anyone figured out why the Italians have both the best and worst design sensibilities?

And we're back to Susan Sontag - when the effort and intent is towards something outstanding in appearance, it can succeed spectacularly but it can also fail spectacularly.

chunky front hub

Yeah that's fugly as hell. And where do you find a replacement for that giant rotor?

where do you find a replacement for that giant rotor?

If you acquire that bike 20 years after the manufacturer goes bust, getting a disc brake rotor is probably the easiest thing you'll have to deal with

Italians

If we're going racist, I'd include the French with the Italians in the Latin school, where the aim is to make something somebody will love, in contradistinction to the Germanic school (Germany, Sweden, England) where the aim is to make something nobody will hate.

racist

Seems a bit crude... Culturalist?