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Dugtheslug
@hippy
Also, re:renovations, it all depends to what extent the builder is involved. Ours managed his kitchen subcontractors but we had to do a lot of "PMy shit" because we had to organise the boss builders, the kitchen supplier and then a bunch of randos for other bits like Thames Fucking Water and collection of the old kitchen and checking over the quote and sending unused bits back (Howden's oversupply and then take back the excess).