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  • I don't have time to listen to it at the moment but are you referring to UK government bonds and pension funds?

    https://archive.is/iO2Mg

    I wouldn't say "no one understood them" - the BoE specifically stepped in to prevent the situation from worsening. But they do seem to be complicated.

    Either way my layman's understanding is:

    • The UK government issues gilts which pay X% interest over whatever period of time, which you can buy for a price
    • Government announced massive unfunded tax cuts which means they were going to have to borrow loads of money, which means the internet rate on gilts was likely to increase
    • Gilt prices dropped off a cliff, because why would you buy a gilt that pays 2% when you can wait a few months and buy a gilt that pays 6% instead?
    • Gilt prices falling has massive knock-on impacts on pension funds who rely on gilts and instruments based on gilts to have predictable income/growth
    • Pensions were forced to sell off their own gilts to cover their liabilities
    • Gilt prices fall even further causing more sell offs.

    that no one had told truss & Kwarteng about

    Also it's not just the case that no one told them. They deliberately avoided asking for advice from some of the budget/treasury bodies because they knew that what they had planned was bonkers.

  • Thank you! All v interesting. I will re listen and see how much more I get this time. They made the other good point that the victors write history, and the BoE and treasury have pushed a narrative of 100% on Truss, but it’s more nuanced apparently.

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