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  • A few years ago, I borrowed a Puckpuck attachment to slow drip into an aeropress from a friend. Similar principle but a fraction of the cost. I preferred classic immersion coldbrew like the Mizudashi linked above. In truth, I don't think I'd enjoy either now though. Much prefer a normal coffee poured over ice.

  • 83mm flat burrs for espresso- so many different opinions out there as to what’s best.

    So- give me more opinions please!

  • Appreciation time: Every year I get about a month in the summer to play around on this. Takes a couple weeks to get back into the flow (and about a kilo of YB) but for the last few days every single shot has been an absolute banger. Even switching the beans up, it doesn't care, just consistently produces 10/10 espresso. And at ~32g each I can drink them all day long. Just love it.


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  • Nice! You have a Europiccola too right? I'm assuming they're basically the same barring a few cosmetic differences?

  • My Aromaboy has arrived. Thumbs up for scale. It really is that small!


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  • Each day that passes, the aroma boy’s charm becomes harder to resist.

  • This is the machine I'm referring to when I say Europiccola. Identical to a post-mil except the boiler cap has a pressure release valve built-in instead of a separate arm.

    My other Gaggia is the Classic. Got a PID installed and it feels so uninvolved by comparison. Much better for a big caffeine hit before work though.

  • Ah that makes sense!

    I do love mine, though I do wish they made them with a 58mm group. Most times I have an espresso from mine, I immediately want another. I normally dose around 14.5g, would be nice to be able to get a bit more in!

    Also, I've jerry-rigged a cold drip tower from my V60 server, an Aeropress and a Dr. Pepper bottle. Hoping for another warm day tomorrow so I can give it a go!

  • 58mm group

    Lance wouldn’t approve…

  • I used to be in total agreement about the dose size but the smaller amount makes it great for multiple drinks a day. Perfect for lazy weekends or 'playing' with espresso. Not so great for caffeine delivery on a busy day. I've been very tempted to give the Argos Odyssey a try as it seems to be the best of both on paper.

  • Love it, had a few of the G106 (basically a La Pav Pro) and they are so cool.

  • Perfect for lazy weekends

    As someone with a 6 year old, I look forward to being able to properly evaluate that use case at some point.

    A few months back, she asked what coffee tasted like as I was having an espresso. I figured this was a great time to have her try it and be revulsed by it to stop any more questions on it for the next decade. Was not expecting the positive response.

    The Argos does look like a great little machine. It's rare that I find myself interested in newer machines, but that does look very nice. I like how they've designed it to be used both with and without the spring. Haven't seen that before!

  • I have no useful experience to add but would be interested in hearing about your current set up and why you want to change? You have a Niche Duo don't you, isn't upgrading the burrs to SSP not worth pursuing (apart from the warranty issues) or the swapping from filter to espresso on the Duo is too much faff and you want to go to a dedicated 83mm espresso grinder?

    Edit, ah I see you are talking about changing burrs, not the whole grinder.... Ignore me!

  • You're gonna be waiting a while unless you snag one used and those are hen's teeth.. But if you're willing to wait I've been hearing nothing but good things.

  • Bottomless portafilter and a triple basket? I can get about 17g in and 35-40g out with a bit of pre-infusion and Fellini action.

  • It’s a valid question- I have both zero and duo, and the espresso burr in the duo is very close to identical in terms of output to the burrs in the zero. I’d like to experiment with a new set of burrs in the duo (using the espresso carrier) which would give me something different to the zero (and maybe could be used for both espresso and filter coffee, but for me espresso is the priority).

    However the SSP lab sweet burrs appear to be $!!!, so I’m really looking for more affordable (but good) options.

  • Interesting. The SSP MPs come up on Ebay here quite often as people upgrade away from their DF83s but that isn't what you are going for!

  • $354 for the SSP LS- £210 at todays FX. Bit to much for an experiment, unless someone has experience of them to share that is strongly positive?


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  • Seems crazy / unjustifiable considering for eg Mazzer burrs are about £30.

  • another hatbeard is skint sale.

    Sage Precision Brewer. £140 posted

    about 4 months of use on it. comes with original accessories and instructions minus the water hardness strip. the included water filter is due replacement so you'd need to order a new one for yourself. don't have any of the original packaging anymore but will send cocooned in bubblewrap with a sturdy box. also includes filters for both baskets (1-4 cup cone and 4-12 cup flat bottomed) and a third party plastic filter holder for the cone filters.

    has been cleaned thoroughly with puly caff but i am incapable of not leaving smudges or getting water spots on stuff it seems so it's clean but will need a quick wipe down out of the box.


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  • Will take the carafe if you split lolz

  • £170 for the carafe and i'll throw in a carafe-less sage precision brewer for free.

  • Sounds like a great deal.

    Better still we could swap our respective spb. Mine is much more efficient and streamlined due to lack of carafe. It’s also lighter so it’s got that weight weenie box ticked

  • How much coffee are you putting in?
    Mine came today!

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