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  • No problem - debate/discussion is good.

    I’ll concede it’s a stretch, but I think there’s lots of empathy for people in dire situations - you only have to look in here at LFGSS members, most are openly empathetic and those who come across curmudgeonly (looks at shoes) are deep down empathetic people. I think that can be extrapolated to wider society: most people are good at heart.

    But fair - it’s the state that needs to be empathetic and there’s room for improvement!

    Education - well it’s free in this country, for starters. And then, I can’t speak for others but can’t be the only one, but any time I hear some bollocks about a minority group being to blame for society’s ills - rather than a decade of neglect by the state - I offer an alternative (read: correct) view and try to educate.

    I can’t be the only person who does this.

    Some will listen; some will not; some will riot at the first opportunity.

    Unless we’re talking at cross purposes?

  • Education - well it’s free in this country

    Schooling is free up until a certain point, and horribly underfunded, particularly in deprived areas. Education, especially as far as what's needed to help avoid a rise of the far right and the problems that go along with it, doesn't necessarily, and for some people can't, happen in schools.

  • Unless we’re talking at cross purposes?

    The comment you first replied to was specifically about using the justice system for rehabilitation rather than revenge. If you believe in that at all (a thing that hasn't been tried nearly enough in this country and is constantly undermined by budget cuts), you really can't say "but only for the people I don't hate". In general, many people who would be suitable for the various approaches to rehabilitation are going to be people you don't like.

    Britain loves punitive justice and has done very badly by it.

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