Mudguards

If they're metal, you can dimple them to make room for the stays: https://somervillebikes.wordpress.com/2020/03/12/how-to-install-metal-fenders-part-iii-installing-the-stays/.

Not stupid at all, on my Brother I had SKS Bluemels with shallow groove taken out using a half-round file.

Great, thanks. Will try to dimple them first.

That’s what I wanted! Perfect

Good luck with it!

Anyone else had experience running pdw fenders and then fouling the back of an ultegra 12 speed front mech?

My clearance was fine with sram force but is super tight with the ultrgra mech… I’ve already removed the cable clip to try and make a bit more room but any other tips welcome… presume just crimping the guard a little might be the way to go?

Crimping, or using a Dremel to sand out a smooth groove?

Old skool guards fitted, my word what a fiddle-faddle! It's a good few years since I did this, and I don't think it got any easier. SKS guards work great but you sure pay with your work for the saving on purchase cost over eg PDW!

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Ever installed undrilled/undimpled Honjos?

Ever installed undrilled/undimpled Honjos?

😂

They take as long as as much precision fitting as they did being made haha.

sks? my sweet summer child

So I've snapped two rear honjos at the seatstay bridge. Bit bored of it now. Direct mount into the bridge, I think i may be overtorquing them to try to stop the wibbly thing that single-stayed mudguards do on rough surfaces.

Can't decide whether to get another set, but before I crack that one, epoxy on some chopped bits of the broken one to make a boss around the stress riser there. Or maybe double stay the rear one (I feel like the wibble is because there's only one bolot ie the whole thing can rotate a bit around that). Or just fucking fit Gilles Berthoud.

Get an old mudguard and epoxy it on as a splint to fix your broken Honjo?

VO mudguards come with these (https://velo-orange.com/products/fender-reinforcement), which you can apparently buy on their own.

I've got a honjo one of those in the shed if anyone wants it.

Alloy guards do seem susceptible to fatiguing at mounting points. I have never had to replace a set of SKS guards once fitted. And no to the q on Honjos.

They're more likely to crack if the holes are untidy and not deburred, and if you don't use flexible washers (cork, leather).

If you have two broken Honjos, cut them up to male a Rinko fender:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/49353569@N00/30439788335

sks? my sweet summer child

Y tho

Just cos they’re typically the easiest / most straightforward to put on, I’m not being super serious though they all have their challenges!

Are you, by any chance, forcing them into place to match your tyre radius, rather than shaping them beforehand?

That's most likely the reason why my own Berthoud cracked at the seatstay bridge.

I found the eyebolts esp fiddlesome. Also, drilling to fit rear mudflap and for direct mount to underside of rear bridge, and choosing spacers to ensure guard is centered on the wheel. None of this is required of the Bontrager NCS set but several users report that theirs snapped after a year or two. That definitely won't happen with the SKS product.

Has anybody ever found a satisfactory way to get these mounts to properly grip the struts?? A couple years in and they barely even hold them anymore with the bolt done up as tight as possible. Any help appreciated!

Edit, before anyone mentions, the washer/no washer doesn't make any difference

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Add some heat shrink/electrical tape to the end of the stay?
Unsolicited, but I'd probably flip them, so the stays do not hit the fork blade.

Thanks! Electrical tape didn't work but heatshrink could be a shout, thank you. Was thinking a coke can shim but don't think I could get it to fit.