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  • Been looking at R&Ms and very tempted by that Load4 60 for nursery commuting and gravel adventures. Seems like a great price.

    What's the general view on the Touring model vs the enviolo/rohloff? I'm thinking I may have more flexibility with gear range with the derailleurs to get up the steep hills here in the lakes.

    Is it possible to fit another battery to it?

  • I’ve got a Load4 75 Rohloff and whilst there’s a lot of hate on here for full sus cargo bikes, if you’re regularly riding gravel paths it’s a really good choice.

    My Rohloff experience is mixed. I love the range but the electronic shifter unit isn’t nearly as reliable as the hubs themselves yet. At some point I’ll investigate converting to cable.

    I’m equally mixed on the Bosch drive system. Again lots to love about the smart system, but key design needs seem to have been lost in the never ending quest to add more functionality / features. The alarm is not very loud so it’s basically useless. The display UI is a clusterfuck and irks me every time I get on the bike.

    My next bike will likely be from Ariel bikes, it won’t be a R&M.
    https://arielbikes.com/

  • Just about the smart system or all bosch systems in general? To be honest it seems like really cool stuff is starting to hit the market now. A high torque cvt is probably the end game solution for most normies.

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