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  • Wtaf? Please quote what he said about DuJardin's race. (Aristocrats are the same race as plebs.)

  • Aristocrats are the same race as plebs.

    Well actually...

    You lot was conquered by the Normans innit. Who spoke French. So there's a totally reasonable association of Frenchness with poshness in Britain. Cow in the field, bœuf on the plate.

    ... Dammit, missed a page

  • You lot was conquered by the Normans innit. Who spoke French. So there's a totally reasonable association of Frenchness with poshness in Britain.

    It's more complicated than that. French surnames like Dujardin and Dupont aren't at all aristratic; they're emphatically plebeian in origin. Nobody with a surname like that can trace direct (and "legitimate") male line descent back to a Norman aristo. On the other hand, if the family surname survived a few centuries in Britain without being anglicised (rather than tracing back to a more recent arrival), the original immigrant family probably climbed a bit up the social ladder, before or after they arrived here. Demlin? French immigrants who stayed pleb. De Moleyns? Posh.

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