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nah. what makes the outcome less likely (it doesn't really) is Starmer's response in removing the whip, not the vote itself. which is my issue with this. That authoritarian streak of his is really fucking troubling.
chickenbones-
I don't really follow your point. You don't like that Starmer imposes party discipline? Ok, your prerogative, but it's not as if they didn't know they were rebelling and would likely face some consequences.
I stand by what I said. If you want to achieve something, in what world is making a public stand to show up the leadership about something is likely to be the most effective way of doing it? It isn't. If anything the threat people might rebel is a stick you can use against the leadership, once you've done it you've lost that.
andyfallsoff
That's the stupid bit though isn't it. Vote with your conscience even if it makes the outcome that you (your conscience) want less, not more, likely.
It does my head in. If you want to change things, think about what is most likely to achieve that