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  • the people I am talking to declare themselves “true conservatives” and “centre right”

    ✅ Maintaining status quo; monarchy, military, environment, service, institutions generally, etc.
    ✅ family unity, marriage and children
    ✅ Upholding rule of law, rather than making more laws
    ✅ Financial prudence / stability
    ✅ A "balance" of regulation and free market (ymmv)
    ✅ Helping the poor via wealth generation and charity
    ✅ The Laffer Curve
    ✅ Stiff upper lip
    ✅ Manners

    ❌ Fucking everything up because we need a change, and for the lolz
    ❌ Worrying about bathrooms
    ❌ Breaking the law for your own ends
    ❌ Risky financial decisions and ignoring established institutions
    ❌ Zero regulations
    ❌ The Hunger Games
    ❌ Zero tax
    ❌ Wetting the bed when you don't get your way/people disagree
    ❌ Rudeness

    I think Ken Clarke is a pretty solid e.g. of a true centre right small and big-C conservative. Tbh I think a "would Ken smile politely while thinking you're a cunt" test is pretty solid.

  • I have just posted your list verbatim, as a response to a chap who is lionising Ben Habib’s statement that we should allow asylum seekers to drown whilst we watch as being “True, Centre-Right Conservatism”. I’ll report back.

  • From your accounts so far I can categorically say Ken would smile politely while thinking they're a cunt.

    But I'd be curious to hear the response.

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