What time is it? Watches and horology

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  • Can I get a sense check on something? I've got a Seiko, nothing fancy, it looks something like this with a stainless body and titanium back. It's marked on the back as "Water resistant 10 bar".

    It needed a battery change as the second hand had started skipping, so I took it round a few places to get a price. I ended up at an independent jewellers that's been really helpful in the past where one of the staff (possibly owners?) gave me a much cheaper price than anywhere partly because, she assured me, they wouldn't need to pressure test it, in fact they couldn't pressure test it because it was only "water resistant" and didn't have a screw down crown. Apparently it was only just about good enough to shower in and I was lucky that I hadn't tried swimming in it.

    From a few things I've read (including Seiko's own site), this is, in retrospect, horseshit and it is indeed waterproof for standard swimming. Other sites I've read indicate that screw-down crowns offer extra water resistance when screwed down but don't have to be as there are internal gaskets that seal it to the specified pressure.

    Any thoughts? I'm going to go back in because they managed to scratch the back of it by not going straight to the proper tool to get the back off and then charged me more than quoted because it took longer than they thought, but I'd just like to check my facts re. the waterproofing.

  • If it says 10 bar then it’s more than enough for swimming. If it’s old the seals and gaskets might need replacing. I’d go elsewhere if they’re that clueless.

  • Seiko, and others, make plenty of watches to 100m WR rating (aka 10 bar), which is plenty for swimming and is intended to indicate that it is suitable for swimming. You are correct that it’s the gaskets in the crown that provide the water resistance. Having the crown screw down is mostly about it not being able to be knocked or pulled out underwater by accident. (Having a screw down caseback is generally very important for water resistance though.)

    I don’t know what else it would say than “water resistant” as watch manufacturers have not been able to use the term “waterproof” for a very long time.

  • Thanks both.

    I don’t know what else it would say than “water resistant” as watch manufacturers have not been able to use the term “waterproof” for a very long time.

    That was my impression. Since there's no watch can be made perfectly waterproof, they can't claim that it is. The crown in this case is obviously just for adjustment.

  • Bit late to the party, have a lovely Sunday everyone!


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  • I like that.. is the colour peachy? Or more yellow in real life?

  • It’s a warm yellow/pale orange kind of colour. Here’s some perspective:


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  • Happy Sunday gang.


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  • Any Sinn experts here? Just picked up this 103 which is showing some patina and needs some love. I’ll give it a bit of a clean up and it will deffo need a service.

    Dial - T Swiss Made T (but numbers still seem luminous)
    Crystal - sapphire has some spots on the AR
    Solid case back, serial begins with 103
    Hollow end links give it a bit of a jangle
    H link bracelet
    German day wheel

    So far I like it! I read about the thickness before I picked it up but it doesn’t wear as tall as I feared.


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  • Happy Sunday everyone


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  • That is very cool

  • Did you shift the Smith's?

  • Probably me, though I would prefer the earlier version SBGX091, slightly different text on the dial.

  • I like the look of the new Roulette version too.

  • Still available at the moment.

  • Finally got this. :)

    I really like it, so light on the wrist, which I know doesnt appeal to everyone. It just feels relaxed, informal with the strap and the lighter weight.


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  • Nice one!

    Yeah, I wear my P39 all the time, which is mostly down to it being a) light and b) non-polished/shiny/flashy.

  • Too similar toy Arcange Field watch, but guess Baltic's implementation might be better :)

  • Lols
    Edit: I do like the face, although it looks a little like a digital face.


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  • The Arcange always looked like vintage Longines to me, where the Baltic is clearly vintage Patek-inspired. Both quite nice, but the Baltic has “something” for me that the Arcange doesn’t.

  • That is dumb... Make it thicker for something as random as a bottle opener.

  • Worlds first and last I bet

  • Interesting mechanism. I hope someone can find a better use for it. Everyone likes the idea of multifunctional James Bond watches. The Breitling one with radio transmitter was popular, although fairly useless.

  • Need a combo for those that like a smoke and a drink because at the moment you'll either need two watches or carry a bottle opener and lighter
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=VW4q3a3MGdQ&si=MuEZJ0SlpcXV-DWy


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