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  • I disagree - the people I am talking to declare themselves “true conservatives” and “centre right”, whilst also espousing a lot of US far right views and idolising Tommy Robinson. They’re putting themselves on the graph in the wrong place.

  • The far right are trying to normalise themselves, and that shouldn’t be a surprise. Expect to see much more of it:

    A new Reform UK MP has vowed to donate his salary to charity

    Rupert Lowe, who was elected to Nigel Farage's party in Great Yarmouth, said his “entire net MP salary” would go to charities and worthy causes in the seaside town

    https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1809318563427299629

    In a sense they are conservatives, but only in the worst possible sense. Can’t remember who said it, but there’s the adage that Conservatism is only one thing — a belief that there should be an in group that the law protects and does not bind, and an out group that the law binds but does not protect.

  • the people I am talking to declare themselves “true conservatives” and “centre right”

    ✅ Maintaining status quo; monarchy, military, environment, service, institutions generally, etc.
    ✅ family unity, marriage and children
    ✅ Upholding rule of law, rather than making more laws
    ✅ Financial prudence / stability
    ✅ A "balance" of regulation and free market (ymmv)
    ✅ Helping the poor via wealth generation and charity
    ✅ The Laffer Curve
    ✅ Stiff upper lip
    ✅ Manners

    ❌ Fucking everything up because we need a change, and for the lolz
    ❌ Worrying about bathrooms
    ❌ Breaking the law for your own ends
    ❌ Risky financial decisions and ignoring established institutions
    ❌ Zero regulations
    ❌ The Hunger Games
    ❌ Zero tax
    ❌ Wetting the bed when you don't get your way/people disagree
    ❌ Rudeness

    I think Ken Clarke is a pretty solid e.g. of a true centre right small and big-C conservative. Tbh I think a "would Ken smile politely while thinking you're a cunt" test is pretty solid.

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