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  • He's hidden his more radical ideas to appear "electable"

    It could mean his support actually grows in office, and becomes more popular.

    These two points do not compute. The people of Britain don't want radical ideas, they've made that pretty clear. If Starmer starts introducing radical policies he'll get less popular and lose the next election so why would he do that?

  • The people of Britain don't want radical ideas

    Have they?

    I think all the evidence is that they want the government to be more radical; to address climate change by moving to renewables, to focus on nature and the environment to stop it being trashed and to level set the economy so that everyone can benefit from it, not just a rich elite.

  • this.

    can't find it now but I remember something about people being shown the labour 2019 manifesto pledges blind and separate to each other and they were largely very popular.

  • I wasn't being entirely unsarcastic there if it wasn't clear. But Starmer needs to avoid spooking Middle England and while you might regard some of things they want as radical (is not dying a fiery death really that radical? Or not pumping our rivers full of poo?) I don't think they want a radical leader, especially right now after so much instability. Starmer needs to avoid creating Mail fodder or setting the ducks running or whatever the phrase is. Britain is not lfgss or even London.

  • The people of Britain don't want radical ideas
    Have they?

    I think all the evidence is that they want the government to be more radical; to address climate change by moving to renewables, to focus on nature and the environment to stop it being trashed and to level set the economy so that everyone can benefit from it, not just a rich elite.

    Firstly - the evidence is half the country voted for parties that have limited support for these outcomes.

    Second, these can be tackled in methodical, evidence based, idealogically-neutral manner. You don’t need to be radical.

    Radical works both ways - trump, brexit, etc are all radical step changes. Being radical doesn’t necessarily give a positive outcome. And, given the incredible complexity of improving health, schooling, poverty and so on, there is a very high possibility that radical change results in unintended consequences.

    It seems that at both ends of the political spectrum “radical” is becoming a populist ideology- persistence, focus, and very hard but boring management aren’t sufficient to improve matters. We just need some simple radical ideas and all will be well.

  • No, they want forin people not to come here.

    Edit and the ones here to go home.

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