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• #3327
I went with Sky News for coverage as I can’t stand Laura K, though that was full of Tory Gammons last night when I switched off.
Could be quite good value now then haha
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• #3328
If you're still stuck with a Tory MP or depressed by the absence of the political death of the party, it's worth remembering that Labour will bring in votes for 16 and 17 year olds, introduce automatic voter registration and reform the upper house.
They need to change the political weather and that's the plan.
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• #3329
Wonder where it all went wrong....
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• #3330
They had some Tory mp who looked like he was going to lose his seat, and his face was full on gammon pink, think he had Sir before his name. Then some other Tory who was also a Sir who was maybe the chairman, who only attacked Labour and didn’t like Andy Burnham questioning the Tory lurch to the right. Ruth Davidson was pretty honest and blunt as to why they lost.
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• #3331
I know the Tory party is driven by pensioners but it's also worth reflecting on the fact that the young aren't always altruistic
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• #3332
Labour win here. My Saturday morning small pleasure of wheezing round parkrun and beating the Tory MP has gone.
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• #3333
Totally. I can't stand that cunt
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• #3334
Just as well.
Over 4 mil votes for Refuck.
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• #3335
absolutely. "Brexit hard man" fuck off 😑
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• #3336
It's ok apparently he didn't want to be an MP anymore anyway (lol)
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• #3337
Reform poll really will with 16/17 year old males, joint most popular party
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• #3338
The Reform voters I’m talking too have all abruptly decided that PR is now something that we should adopt.
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• #3339
If you look at the Reform vote share (being aware that correlation is not causation, but…) it tallies with the % of the populace who have secondary education as their maximum level of educational attainment.
I’m going to be concerned when they manage to break out of that group.
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• #3340
Simple message for simple people, or certainly like to think that everything is a binary choice
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• #3341
John Curtis making the point that Scotland was the only place labour have improved thier performance from 2019, its reform taking tory votes that has made the difference and people staying at home
Blair won on a 15% higher turnout, completely different level of enthusiasm
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• #3342
Oh totally, I have been following what's going on in Europe with concern and I don't want to underestimate the huge challenges Labour are facing. I don't think there's any evidence that Reform have many young voters so far (?) and the Tories sure aren't popular with youngsters. But this election shows that politics is changing faster than ever so the next election could be very different.
Edit: Just read what @greentricky wrote :(
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• #3343
Labour will have to deliver to get more than five years in government.
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• #3344
Funny that
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• #3345
Put it on a T shirt 👌💥😂
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• #3346
If there's one thing this election has shown us it's that PR is a bad idea!
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• #3347
Don't think I've seen it for the UK but was a good chart the other day showing for the French elections, young people don't vote centrist, the vote extremes (both left and right) and lower socio economic status voted for populism and more right wing parties
Would be nice to think labour could improve people's living standards and opportunities at the lower ends but that take time and investment and not sure they have the latter given thier fiscal rules
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• #3348
So, went to bed a little deflated after Farage, Badenoch, Tice, Braverman, Reform predicted 15 seats, but fully re-heartened to get up to JRM, Truss, Drax, Gullis, Donelan, Reform down to 4.
Don't fuck this up now, Starmer. Lurch rightwards towards the abyss, Torycunts.
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• #3349
Is the bulk of this result due to former Tory voters either staying at home or voting reform?
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• #3350
Labour, lib dem, green coalition would probably be ok. Might be quite good.
It's where you win votes that matter in FPTP, not how many you win.