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• #2477
Well that sucks. Presumably they will try to hold onto it afterwards too
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• #2478
Having lunch in Canary Wharf and they've got Loose Women on the TV - didn't expect Farage to then show up. Ah.
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• #2479
He's going after that Whitstable Women voter.
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• #2480
Is that horrible right wing lady still on it?
The 'I-grew-up-in-a-council-estate-did-well-in-media-so-poor-people-should-earn-more-or-fuck-off-and-die' one?
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• #2481
Listening to Sunak getting upset about the racism when he’s the subject of it feels ironic at best. I assume a £5 million donation to the tory party and he’d be fine with it.
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• #2482
Dog-Whitstable Women. Eh, eh?
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• #2483
Actually, maybe that doesn't work and I should cancel myself.
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• #2484
I’m at the school sports day, over hearing lots of talk of tactically voting for the Lib Dem’s if you want the Tory’s out, lots no pompy geezas agreeing.
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• #2485
our postie just dropped off a few more along with the normal mail, "sorry about the crap". Im going to assume they meant the anti-abortion one
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• #2486
Presumably they will try to hold onto it afterwards too
If everything is done properly then they shouldn't.
Most of the time they never even see it - they just give the list to the company that is doing the mailshot and a big machine prints letters, stuffs envelopes, prints postage and then the list is deleted.
If someone wants to do it more cheaply then the partial lists are sent to someone locally who gets the letters printed and then they stuff the envelopes manually. Then they have a choice of:
- paying for postage
- divvying them up to an army of volunteers to hand deliver them
Last time Mrs GB helped out she spent a few hours stuffing envelopes with the personalised letters that had been printed off, and then these were split up into bundles of ~100 or so for local volunteers to post by hand. It took 45 minutes or so for her to deliver the 100 along our road.
For a generic flyer that isn't personalised they can pay Royal Mail to get them delivered by the local posties. Much cheaper than a 2nd class stamp or the effort of printing personalised letters or anything that goes in an envelope.
Obviously this relies upon everyone along the way not keeping a copy of the full register, but they can get into big shit with the ICO and Electoral Register people if they keep the full lists for any longer than necessary to do the mailshots.
The constituency I live in (Putney, where I think you used to live) was the only one that went from Con to Lab in the 2019 GE so, theoretically, it should be pretty safe given the swing to Labour but there are a few local issues (housing/planning) that the other parties are trying to make a big thing about. There's also going to be a higher than national average number of people affected by the VAT on private schools decision. We've had non-personalised leaflets from the Tories, Reform and Greens delivered by the postie, but Labour has sent personalised letters and paid for the postage so they're obviously a little bit nervous about this constituency.
In increasing order of worry about the borough it would be something like:
- No flyer at all
- Flyer probably delivered by random contractors (not completely reliable)
- Flyer delivered by postie (more reliable)
- Personalised letter delivered by volunteer
- Personalised letter delivered by post
Canvassing is an extra consideration and could be applied to some/many/all of the above but tends to be selective based on housing (e.g. voting differences between the extremes of poor estate housing and £5m+ houses in the constituency). Rarely do they aim to canvass every single property in a constituency.
- paying for postage
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• #2487
VAT on school fees looking like it won't be applied from Sep 2024, more likely Sep 2025, giving people (and schools) a year to work out what they are doing.
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She [Rachel Reeves] is expected to say that the change will not take effect until 2025 at the earliest and will not be applied retrospectively – although The Daily Telegraph reported that Labour is planning to close a loophole which some parents are trying to use to avoid the prospect of higher fees, whereby they pay several years’ worth in advance at the current rate.
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• #2488
I'm a bit gutted the tories haven't turned up on my doorstep. I've been looking forward to giving them a bit of advice about austerity, partygate, Truss's budget, shit in the rivers, voter suppression, Windrush, infected blood, Post Office, VIP PPE lanes & Mone, Rwanda, Brexit and the general neglect of the social and physical infrastructure of the UK.
I've quite the rant ready for them.
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• #2489
You'll be pleased to hear that we had a canvasser trying to sneak a leaflet through the door without being noticed, which is a fool's errand when you have a dickhead of a dog like ours.
He got a long list of reasons as to why no-one should be voting for his shower of wankers, which I think covered most, if not all, of your list.
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• #2490
I almost felt sorry for him, but then remembered he was a Tory.
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• #2491
But this election is a choice about the future, not the past 😐(Sunak face)
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• #2492
austerity, partygate, Truss's budget, shit in the rivers, voter suppression, Windrush, infected blood, Post Office, VIP PPE lanes & Mone, Rwanda, Brexit and the general neglect of the social and physical infrastructure of the UK
Although recommending they go forth and multiply and take their litter with them will come a close second.
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• #2493
we've has three flyers through the letterbox today for our local tory candidate, Jane 'rhymes with' Hunt.
1x with the regular post addressed to my wife, and 2x hand delivered in plain envelopes addressed separately to me and my wife.the hand delivered ones were this morning while i was at home, but no knock on the door.
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• #2494
Reform are shandy drinkers, who knew.
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• #2495
I thought sherry was popular with the small plates crowd... The best value alcoholic drink IMO.
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• #2496
Sorry, say what?
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• #2497
Reform mentioned trying to do something similar before but were thwarted because of Brexit:
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• #2498
What about orange wine drinkers?
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• #2499
I wonder if Rish! bought any guacamole?
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• #2500
Will the establishment ever stop picking on poor Nigel?
This coordinated stich-up by The Mail, Ofcom, the BBC, Labour, the Tories, milkshakes, vetting companies, Reform candidates, Actors specialising in 'rough speaking', pubs, banks, and Nigel's own mouth, is a threat to democracy and has simply got to stop.
Political parties (for campaigning purposes) get access to the full register, so they got your address that way.