General Election 2024

What policies have Reform published that would change the political system or that Reform would listen more to the electorate than other parties? Genuinely interested as was having this conversation with a likely reform voter last night in the pub and first time I’d heard that Reform offer change rather than just an anti immigration platform. Would like to hear the details as Reform terrify me so surprised people are considering this as a reason to vote for them.

Reform is not a political party but a private company so I guess the fact that they can collectively stand is pretty undemocratic.

But they are standing so if you want to vote for them as “none of the above” then fill your jackboots.

Edited at Colin_the_Bald’s request (and kicking myself for not coming up with it)

and that appears to be Reform.

This is fucking nonsense, no thank you.

am I wrong ?

Yes

edit: wot they all said innit..

Nigel, is that you?

Beta behaviour

NONE of the political parties represent what typical people want - am I wrong ?

Define "typical people". British Social Attitudes survey seems to indicate that mainstream politics is less progressive than the population. If you want to pick a random party it's the Greens. Bar air travel they have one of the most genuinely voter led manafestos.

In terms of the issues Reform is not actually on the pulse of anything. Immigration is on par with International Conflict, and I dare say that if the media reflected the actual reality and the HO had been handing processing as effectively as they had under Cameron it would register even lower.

On the 3 top issues, by any reasonable analysis Reform would be catastrophic. Every policy that have that touches those three would fuck them up even more that the last 3 PMs have.

the most commonly reported issues were: the cost of living (87%), the NHS (86%) and the economy (70%); other commonly reported issues were climate change and the environment (61%), housing (55%), crime (55%), immigration (51%), and international conflict (50%).

'Shaking up' things via Brexit has actually increased the worst behaviour in politicians. Whatever you think about Cameron and May it seems unlikely that you would have seen the depths of corruption and dishonesty since.

The only vote that will shake up the system into something that listens to the people is a strong "non of the above" voice, and that appears to be Reform.

I will give you one thing though, a constant is the British public's desire for higher spending on public services without having to pay for it. In that sense Reform's Truss-like unfunded tax cuts and public service improvements do share some ground with the typical person's delusions.

Tl;Dr yes you are wrong