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  • Unbelievable!

  • Listening to that Stella Creasy Oh God What Now. She presents well doesn't she?

  • A bit sexist...

  • This sounds like a good idea. I often see some some older people doing litter picking near me.

    Surely programmes like this for retireers would be really good. They'd provide a benefit to society, improve community engagement and keep them active which both provides health benefits and reduces costs on the NHS.

  • Also implies being a parent, so hurtful for the childless.

  • Its pretty much 100% retirees who install, maintain and plant all the planters, plants pots and beds around our town. They do a great job. They also litter pick and get involved in the community events e.g. Mayday parade and Christmas lights switch on.

    Incidentally the guild of shop owners who used to fund the Christmas lights pulled out last year (including many big chains Tesco, M&S, Boots, Waitrose etc) and it was the town community group who stepped up and took it over.

  • Sounds like Cameron's big society paid off!

    Joking aside I do genuinely think it is a good idea and I'd loved to see it combined with. An initiative strategy on how to use our high streets.

    I wouldn't ever withdraw driving licences and bank account for non-attendees.

  • Forgot, some of the retirees also opened up a repair shop this month behind the community centre on Saturdays, running out of a large, new shed they put up. Haven't been over yet, but intended to see if they needed help with bike repairs. I've got many of the tools required after all.

  • 65-74 year olds volunteer most but it's not a massive difference to other age groups (although this data doesn't break out hours so perhaps they volunteer more often/more hours). Still only about a third of people. I'm not a fan of forced volunteering, it isn't volunteering if you have to do it IMHO, but it would be nice if everyone did a bit more IMHO.


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  • "let's remake dad's army."

    I say sir, do you think that's awfully wise?"

  • Sunak said only one of his kids was excited for National Service, the other will not drive or have any funds then?

  • What is your name?

  • Don’t need a licence to ride a bike. I’d have thought we’d be all for fewer drivers on the roads on here right?

  • Don't tell them your name @spindrift!

  • The other one wont be able to get a loan from an FSA registered institution so they will have to resort to loan sharks or the bank of mum and dad.

  • 16,000 drivers caught without a licence in 2020. Given the odds of being caught must be fairly small the actual number of drivers without a licence must be much higher.

    Following laws is for mugs.

  • Don’t need a licence to ride a bike.

    That'll be next.

  • Indeed, that was the joke.

    It's about as likely as National Service then.

  • I used to have a few mates in Athens c.2000.

    I'm pretty sure it's the case that when they got their driving licence, they got put in the army. As a result, they just didn't get it and drove around without.

    I'm pretty sure that whatever the downstream effects of that, in this country, would far outweigh whatever benefit they seek to gain from national service

  • With so many Don't Know it's far from clear (plus as pointed out, it's a poll commissioned by the Green Party) but, and it's a big but, if it is accurate then less than half of the Don't Know go green it'll be open the champagne time.

  • Wasn't the bulk of Sunak's riches sourced from the state anyway? As I understood it, his hedge fund owned a stake in ABN Amro, which was acquired by RBS, which was then acquired by the UK government to stave off a collapse of the UK banking sector. Some, if not all, of his millions came from that bailout.

    I think the problem is that this can't really be proved. It's alleged his firm inflated ABN shares and therefore their stake, making the sale to RBS more likely, at which point presumably the stake was sold for profit.

    But to allege it was Sunak shorting (in the general sense of betting on a future price fall), or by encouraging the deal, contributing to the banking collapse, in which the UK government bought the shares at a higher price, or that by doing so the public purse effectively paid for almost all of the c. £500 million [edit: this was the sale price of the stake, not the gain]...

    ... would require alleging that Sunak personally knew ABN was overvalued. Which is difficult to do, especially when there were competing bidders in the sale, I think.

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General Election 2024

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