General Election 2024

Safe Labour seat for me. I'll be delivering Green party leaflets this week and will probably vote for them. If it were closer in my seat then I'd vote Labour (or anyone but the Tories). But I'm generally uninspired by growing the economy and sticking to Tory spending dogma as a platform for change. Maybe they'll do something big on getting into power - PR, votes for 16+, Levenson 2, meaningful green action, but I don't see signs.

What's the single issue you're talking about, if you don't mind disclosing it?

I mind... at least, a lot of people know, I'm not keeping it private... but this thread is not a safe space to disclose some things, so I won't put the reply into this thread.

No problem, and apologies for surfacing the topic

Steve Richards(Rock and Roll Politics Podcast) noted that when parties do get a huge majority as did
Atlee, Thatcher, Blair they had the space to get stuff done (for good [Atlee], for evil [Thatcher], or for some good some evil [Blair].

While I too have a main issue which in my case is public realm use and planning to save humanity, I align Green and have almost always voted Green.

This time I'll likely vote labour, despite living in a Lab cert constituency.

I wish to see these Tories totally eliminated. I also have to believe that Labour will be totally more radical in government especially if they have space for this. I find it hard to believe otherwise and filter out all the annoying back tracking from labour on many issues.

Since they haven't been in power it's impossible to know what they will be like in power untill they get it and the room to act

Green vote for me, but if there was any doubt I'd be voting tactically anti Tory. I'm no huge current labour fan but I feel they'd at least stop torturing and mocking the turkeys before Xmas and selling of the farm machinery so they'd be left with rocks for the slaughtering rather than ways to pretend it's humane.

I wish to see these Tories totally eliminated.

This, they have absolutely fucking ruined the country, I'd argue they're worse than Thatcher, they need fucking decimating.

decimating

this only means to reduce by a tenth.

I'd opt for eradicating all of them and Reform / BNP voters... but I think eradication is still politically and ethically distasteful, oh well.

political eradication of course, as in end of the party.

actual physical eradication is arguably a step too far.

You may have updated this - but it looks like the same image.

this only means to reduce by a tenth.

Is that true?
Weird you never hear the other fractions..

I’m gonna absolutely pentimate that delicious burger.

Is that true?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/decimate

Yeah, but everyone just seems to imagine it means "reduce by a hell of a lot", when it really only means "reduce by a tenth".

While I too have a main issue which in my case is public realm use and planning to save humanity

I'm similar, although fair housing provision is at the top of the list for me. The thing is though, many of these single-issue positions reach out into all sorts of other areas that it's impossible to solve without some serious changes to legislative, fiscal, monetary, and organisational obstacles.

Everything from ownership, private property, tenants rights, workers rights, social equity, economic inequality, environment, private provision of finance, taxation, state and municipal power, devolution, democratic norms, proportional representation, all feed into the same equation.

That Labour have hemmed themselves in on many of these fronts is to accept they'll never be able to move the dial on the individual problems many of us face.

(Edit: very safe Labour seat here, and I'll likely vote Green)

This is what myself and 75% of my friends in Manchester are doing this time around and for the foreseeable, I've voted for every other iteration of labour (first being Brown).

Knowledge!

Definitely gonna use that from now on.

This 100mm stem is too long. Total decimation!

The old adage has now become: everyone starts off voting Labour then goes to the Greens when they get older

this only means to reduce by a tenth.

Maybe if we're going to spend some time in pendants corner you should look at third meaning in the mirriam Websters definitions. Whilst it's true the origin is in the Latin for reduce by a tenth, meaning of words evolve.

From your same link

Decimate strayed from its "tenth" meaning and nowadays refers to the act of destroying or hurting something in great numbers.

the act of destroying or hurting something in great numbers.

10 is a great number, dunno what you're on about

The old adage has now become: everyone starts off voting Labour then goes to the Greens when they get older

We get tired of centrist leftists, and prefer radical leftists.

You may have updated this - but it looks like the same image.

The main part of the image is the same as that's the UK tax incomes for 2023/24, the difference in the images is the relative sizes of the increased manifesto spending for each party which is represented as an overlaid box of their logo. Reforms manifesto spending plans are much greater than Labours.

you should look at third meaning

If I've learned anything from Urban Dictionary it's to never consider the third meaning of something.

Criticising people on the left who decide to vote for parties that represent them/their beliefs ignores the fact that labour chose to let those people leave. In many cases actively pushed them away. It calculated that those voters don't matter in the grand plan/arithmetic. It's the big brain electioneering everyone's been praising.

Weird you never hear the other fractions..

I’m gonna absolutely pentimate that delicious burger.

I'm gonna absolutely duodecimate the librarians.

One of the sources of "decimate" was as a punishment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimation_(punishment)

"
In the military of ancient Rome, decimation (from Latin decimatio 'removal of a tenth') was a form of military discipline in which every tenth man in a group was executed by members of his cohort. The discipline was used by senior commanders in the Roman army to punish units or large groups guilty of capital offences, such as cowardice, mutiny, desertion, and insubordination, and for pacification of rebellious legions. The procedure was an attempt to balance the need to punish serious offences with the realities of managing a large group of offenders.
"

If I've learned anything from Urban Dictionary it's to never consider the third meaning of something.

Fair point.

I will likely never vote for them again, not even if it lets a Tory govt in.

No. The middle classes become comfortable in their bubble, so have no need to sully themselves with the poor and disadvantaged.

And on Urban Dictionary the third definition is exactly the one you don’t align with!

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=decimate

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