General Election 2024

Mine's Labour, which is a relief, as it would not feel right voting Lib Dem (not that blue Labour fills me with enthusiasm). My neighbour who's standing for the Greens is on 13%, which is bloody annoying as that would easily unseat Tommy Tugs if it was tagged onto the Labour vote.

My neighbour who's standing for the Greens is on 13%, which is bloody annoying as that would easily unseat Tommy Tugs if it was tagged onto the Labour vote.

Yeah, the Greens are the inverse Reform. That post above shows the Conservatives 1% lead over Labour now becoming a 6% lead over the Greens.

Do you have any background on getvoting ? I haven't come across them before. I'm a bit sceptical of my suggestion to vote labour. It's a new constituency which has 10 tory counsellors and 17 Lib Dems, 0 Labour. I know it not that straight forward but still.

The Tory's have been know to set up there own fake tactical voting website to point people the wrong way.

I believe it's created by Best for Britain which are legit. It also uses the Survation MRP polls so should be close to accurate / the best source to use to gauge your tactical vote.

It also uses the Survation MRP polls so should be accurate.

Citation needed.

It's a poll, there's a built in margin of error for a start. The volatility of the electorate has changed so much in the past 15 years, that I don't think anyone can predict the outcome beyond the expectation that Labour will form a majority government.

Best for Britain

Yeah just found a reference to them, I'm reassured by that.

I'll be interest to see how it compares to stopthetories.vote when they put out there recommendation for my area. There my trusted peopled, who doesn't true Carol Vorderman!

It's a poll, there's a built in margin of error for a start. The volatility of the electorate has changed so much in the past 15 years, that I don't think anyone can predict the outcome beyond the expectation that Labour will form a majority government.

Totally fair.
I guess what I meant is that, unlike a nationally weighted sample, the large Survation MRPs are more likely to be accurate or close to accurate on a local level.

Of course nothing is going to be guaranteed. I've edited my original comment.

https://www.thepinknews.com/2021/02/05/dr-david-bull-hiv-testing-twitter/

https://x.com/KuntiePlopkins/status/1802625938988962075

He's their west Suffolk candidate.

Splitting the left vote is all the Greens have ever achieved. At the last election they got 1 MP (over Labour) but in 16 constituencies, a Tory candidate won over Lib Dem or Labour by fewer votes than the Greens received. 16 own goals to one.

If Reform can consistently achieve own goals on the right, as the Greens have on the left for decades, it's a gamechanger for British politics.

Hence why the Tories (even someone like David Cameron who understood the value of holding the center) have been trying so hard to swallow up Reform/UKIP.

Seems strange. Our constituency recently voted for almost entirely green councillor candidates at locals, in Bristol central, so surprised to see them lagging behind labour so quickly. Unless green manifesto and Carla Denyers appearance in debates have swung it so rapidly.

People are happy to vote Green in council elections where they feel the stakes aren't so high. When it comes to running the country they are less inclined to do so (rightly or wrongly)

Didn't Best for Britain recommend voting Lib Dem in Kensington & Chelsea last time, which resulted in the sitting Labour MP losing their seat by about 100 votes to the Tories? Or was it another one of the 'tactical voting' sites?

You've always got to wonder what their agenda is with these things, of course. Last time it seemed to be to elect as many anti-Brexit MPs as possible rather than get rid of the Tories. This time, I suspect it's more targeted towards getting 'Labour' elected.

Splitting the left vote is all the Greens have ever achieved.

That's quite unfair, my votes for Dick Veins were not in vain.

I would imagine in a situation such as this, where a labour majority is almost certain, that this might be exactly where people might vote for a green representative (despite their manifesto clearly being pie in the sky)

I usually vote green as it's nailed on Labour round here no matter what, which is good in some ways.

Sounds like we are broadly in agreement then. Have a lovely evening.

So how are we all (in the southeast) feeling about the rumors of labour recalibrating council tax bands against current valuations?

I think I'd be fucked financially as we are currently a one income household.

Long overdue. Needs more bands at the top end too.

Agree, broken system that is no longer fit for purpose, make it a land value tax

Also apparently not happening. Boo.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czddl1x1013o

Labour rules out changes to council tax bands

I think we did that on the memes thread

Reform getting alot of space on the news today, Farage would shit himself if he actually got in but it’s all make believe as they are never getting enough to even get close and that will suit that grifter. He’ll fill his pockets again for a few years!

Schools are offering it but they don't know that vat can be avoided. Why the government would allow people who have paid up front to not pay tax is beyond me.

Why the government would allow people who have paid up front to not pay tax is beyond me.

Because retrospective taxes aren't very popular and is sometimes ruled illegal.

They talked about it on The Rest is Politics.
Rory Stewart said they (the Tories) looked at it when he was a minister and it only brought in an additional £0.5bn per annum, which although to us is aot of money, in the big scheme of things it wasn't worth the political fallout for such little gain.

So not surprised Labour have now ruled it out.