General Election 2024

amey my dear sweet child

Well, that explains a lot. :)

Steamer thinking he would not win under Corbin. Especially as his allies in the labour party workers fucked over the electorate. Didn't look in to that but wasted millions of party funds on utter rubbish.
Yet to meet a labour party member who voted for him in the leadership election.

How have reform racists taken over the Tories.

So at what point do you get the UK are the biggest bunch of racists as controlled by the Murdock press.

This is the sort of thing that worries me.

While younger people are more progressive how much effort is it to shift their views?

• cost of higher education reducing numbers of grads
  
• insecure job market
  
• insecure and crippling housing costs
  
  

Exactly the sort of things that push people to the extremes.

You could see how it would fit together- “60% of Chinese children are going to university- vote Reform or your kids will make their kids shoes”

how do they recover from that

• labour win landslide on v low turnout on a mandate to not really do very much (except get the bastards out)
  
• farage (or farage-adjacent allies like braverman) inherit husk of post-election party
  
• party leans even further into neo-fash anti immigration ‘make britain
  great again’, yes to family, no to LGBT rhetoric
  
• no tenable left flank in british politics to mediate this force
  
• labour tinker for a term not really fixing any underlying problems
  
• malcontent starts
  
• reform-CON make some headway in mid term council elections
  
• in term 2 a financial crisis hits or SQSKC does a ‘humanitarian intervention’
  
• GGs
  

@mylifemysay
🚨 BREAKING: 330,619 people registered to vote yesterday — the highest number of voter registrations in a single day in 2024.

179,285 of them were young people aged 18-34.

A seemingly unreported and in my mind under-appreciated component of the Labour manifesto is the proposals for devolution in England. Brexit was strongly fueled by resentment in English regions where people felt policymakers were imposing decisions on them, rather than listening and responding to what locals thought was most needed.

The system as it works now relies on councils bidding and competing for ludicrously small amounts for fixed projects (often single digit £m) dictated from Whitehall, instead of creating a framework which enables local authorities to spend money most appropriately to fit local needs. The only winners as it stands are ministerial control freaks and expensive consultants, who are invariably seen as necessary to produce the slick slide decks which win bids (ask me how I know...). This is the system that has resulted in the UK having the largest city in Europe with no metro; Leeds - a shameful accolade but an apt explanation for why drivers are seen as such an important franchise in this country.

The manifesto seeks to implement recommendations in Gordon Brown's 2022 report which identified a lack of power in local government to enact changes. Key amongst these are a devolution of powers over transport, planning (with responsibilities to build, not block) and investment for growth. The devolution deal could be the most important (positive) piece of legislation in decades, and it has the potential to totally change the running of this country, making us less reliant on the whims of central-government.

The only thing missing is powers over taxation...

7 way debate was an absolute shit show. Culminated in Mordaunt shouting "higher taxes!" to each of the other 6 in turn.

Can't see how that format can ever work, only good thing is it allows small parties to get some visibility

The sky format the night before was far better but only allowed people to see Starmer and Sunak but at least they got some scrutiny and time to talk

Anyone else notice that Farage's closing comments involved him repeating stand up and fight multiple times. A not so subtle dig.

He definitely looks to be hoping to get himself in as a leader somewhere after the election.

The only thing missing is powers over taxation...

The US has shown how this can go badly. You can see states offering more and more ludicrous tax breaks to tempt large firms to base themselves there and it is a real race to the bottom.

power in local government to enact changes

It's a postcode lottery! Service is rubbish here and better if I live 100 furlongs east!

That is a successful free market right, some regions are allowed to fail and everyone will move to the good performers

Please let it end.
This is going to be a fucking long 3 weeks

100 furlongs

Not certain if this is signalling a Ress-Mogglike desire for use of Imperial measures?

That's the dream! Healthy competition, but hopefully avoiding a race to the bottom

Fairly sure greentricky was being tongue in cheek.

Agree, the Sky one was way better. ITV interview of Sunak has been most revealing so far, so they get some credit.

Solves the housing crisis by freeing up cheap housing in the failing areas.

What are the chances of Farage becoming leader of the opposition and mouthing off at PMQs every week? Please tell me it can't happen.

WTF do you want a competition between areas of the same country? We need a healthy, educated and happy population that can make a decent living, not a pack of rats tearing each other apart.

What are the chances of Farage becoming leader of the opposition and mouthing off at PMQs every week? Please tell me it can't happen.

No chance.

FPTP means that vite share does not translate into seats and hence to opposition.

Lib Dems on the other hand, could possibly form an opposition.

I dont know if you can make a coalition opposition, such as LD plus Green?

I think not, that kind of thing is only for forming a govt.

The problem for Farage is identical to the one Sunak faces, in that they are competing directly for the same voters and will split the vote in a lot of the constituencies where they could win.

And, as @mashton says, FPTP favours incumbent parties, not challengers.

Anyway, polls show trends so all we know for certain currently is that Labour has a substantial lead and is likely to form the next government.

How the rest of it shakes out will only become apparent after the polls close on election day, and even then, tactical voting can seriously distort results over exit polls.