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  • Whoa - I'm not sure I claimed or insinuated I'd been cancelled. I think you might be reading my tone a bit wrong. I was responding to this:

    Complaining about the style of potential victory, after years of no fucking hope of victory, strikes me as, well, lacking an understanding the game being played. As the Tories have demonstrated for quite some time, it's the achieving of results, not the style of achieving the results, that is more important bit. Get past this part, then ramp up the manifesto stuff later.

    That is, the position that the policies are not important, and to treat them as such is to misunderstand "the game being played." I think the policies are important.

    Edit: ahhh. is it because I used the word "space" and that had connotations with "safe space" or something? "Space" in this context was a reference to this being the GE thread. If you can't discuss manifestos and policies and politics here, what "space" can you?

  • I'm not sure I claimed or insinuated I'd been cancelled.

    You didn't. My point is that no one is stopping you discussing policies.

    So far you've offered criticism but not actual discussion yourself.

    Why won't a national energy provider focussed on building a renewable grid not help the climate emergency? It won't solve it sure but who the fuck can solve the global climate emergency in a national manifesto?

    What's wrong with their education policy? Obviously they're not able to double funding overnight and I don't think any other party is offering that either.

    etc etc

  • So far you've offered criticism but not actual discussion yourself.

    Is the problem that I'm not offering my own policies? Because what I'm critical of is that they're failing to present real policies on key issues.

    I'll touch on HE because I'm a bit more caught up on details there.

    What's wrong with their education policy?

    I said universities which is different. But assuming that's what you mean by education, the answer is easy: they don't have one. Which is horrifying. Universities are a huge part of the UK economy (directly and indirectly) and one of the main contributors to UK soft power which, post Brexit in particular, is not something that should be ignored.

    This is the entirety of what they say on the topic:

    Labour will continue to support the aspiration of every person who meets the requirements and wants to go to university.

    We recognise that UK higher education creates opportunity, is a world-leading sector in our economy, and supports local communities. To better integrate further and higher education, and ensure high-quality teaching, Labour’s post-16 skills strategy will set out the role for different providers, and how students can move between institutions, as well as strengthening regulation. We will act to improve access to universities and raise teaching standards.

    The current higher education funding settlement does not work for the taxpayer, universities, staff, or students. Labour will act to create a secure future for higher education and the opportunities it creates across the UK. We will work with universities to deliver for students and our economy.

    That's not a policy (and much of the manifesto reads like this).

    THE has just said the "manifesto ducks detail in addressing sector funding crisis." The reality is that there will very likely be universities (plural) going bankrupt very shortly. These will mostly be regional universities who are major employers. Being regional also means that it will be very hard on the students caught up in such a situation. Not to mention the current funding model is pretty unfair to a lot of students.

    At least the tories are honest about what they'll do: shut down programmes. Something I don't support, but you know where you stand. Labour are burying their heads in the sand. I mean, being political geniuses.

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