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Is there any space where you're allowed to criticise Starmer or lament about their proposed policies for the next five years? I thought the centre was supposed to be where the "adults" do politics. But how can that be possible if we're not allowed to talk politics.
It all has a bit of the right complaining about remainers "talking down Britain."
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Mate, disagreeing with you is talking politics isn’t it??
You haven’t been cancelled FFS.
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Agree.
But when people say they're not going to vote because there's a targeted pothole ad the anti-tory centerist coalition can get a bit over-sensitive.
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Is there any space where you're allowed to criticise Starmer or lament about their proposed policies for the next five years? I thought the centre was supposed to be where the "adults" do politics. But how can that be possible if we're not allowed to talk politics.
It all has a bit of the right complaining about remainers "talking down Britain."
Of course there is. But unless they are in power, they can't do shit. Criticise the fuck out of them when they are in power and actively not doing what you want.
But win first, meaningful changes later.
I suspect they are going to up taxes on businesses, reversing the corporate rate tax cuts and offshoring, Dutch sandwich shenanigans.
Now putting that in a manifesto to win? Not so easy.
When in power? Fuck yeah. Super majority. Fuck Starbucks, Amazon, etc...The manifesto is more marketing brochure than blueprint. I think it should be treated as such.
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I get that everyone is complaining about the blandness but, as the the last 14 years have shown, Labour cannot do shit without power. Sure it's boring, but it will win them an election, well it certainly won't lose them one. And it's the right strategy to just not fuck up the open goal. Which is what people have been wanting for a while, no?
Complaining about the style of potential victory, after years of no fucking hope of victory, strikes me as, well, lacking an understanding the game being played. As the Tories have demonstrated for quite some time, it's the achieving of results, not the style of achieving the results, that is more important bit. Get past this part, then ramp up the manifesto stuff later.